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  1. vasco

    vasco Well-Known Member

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    Good luck getting to Kamchatka with your skin falling off.
    But let's not think that much ahead.
    For the moment you are losing against Ukraine.
    And against cardboard drones.
     
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    Пока что мы уничтожаем нацистов и наносим удары по всей территории Бандеростана. При этом Бандеростан не имеет собственного ВПК, экономика в разрухе, население разбежалось, долги - ну долги они отдавать и не рассчитывают. Попрощайтесь со своими деньгами - все что вы им поставили будет или уничтожено или украдено и все это вы им спишите в лучшем случае. В худшем - вы будете платить-платить-платить...

    Что же касается Камчатки - до нее не надо бежать. Есть и ближе места размером в с десять Франций. Сибирь большая.
     
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  3. vasco

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    Fuckin hell!

    "Ukrainian UAV flying in the area of Cape Tarkhankut is chased by two combat helicopters and one plane. Despite continuous fire, our drone left the "battlefield" unscathed and successfully returned to base. "Some crooked hands..."

     
  4. vasco

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    For the moment your country is waging a criminal war against a peaceful country called Ukraine, the peaceful people of Syria as well as against peoples and populations in Africa.
    So fuck off with your lunacies.
     
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    О преступной войне вы расскажете зеркалу. Когда вы вели преступную войну в Ираке, Афганистане, Сирии, Ливии. И за это вас будут судить, вы не сомневайтесь.
     
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    Here is my best peace proposal at the moment: The fighting stops now; the Crimea, Lugansk and Donetsk remain under Russian control (about 20% of post-Soviet Ukrainian Republic?).

    Russia wants a buffer, or DMZ (demilitarized zone), between NATO (mainly USA [with the UK and Western Europe having lesser voices and money; Eastern Europe is really just seen as real estate to NATO, etc.]). Everyone here knows history, so this is nothing new.

    If the West keeps pushing eastward, conflict ensues. If Russia pushes further wastward, conflict ensues.

    Peace NOW means that people stop dying, that people stop demonizing each other, and thinking about "enemies" as not being people but barbarians, fascists and all kinds of other overly-simplistic names. Both sides have guilt.

    I feel guilty, because America is really paying for everything that happens in the Ukraine. We must not push this too much to the point of nuclear war:
     
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    This is the essence of russian war propaganda when coming from Western mouthpieces.
    Great job, Uncles.
     
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    Зачем нам нацистские государства в Европе? Мы снова проведем денацификацию как в 44-45 годах. Мы уже убедились, что нацизм это порождение Западной цивилизации и он не излечим пока она продолжает доминировать в Европе.
     
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    А рагули верят всему что им насрут в мозг их СМИ?
     
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    Not true, Vasco. I'm trying to be as objective as possible (from my perspective). I want everyone to stop the fighting and death. It's like putting out a fire. First we must put out the fire.
     
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    The only way to put out your "fire" is to have the russian troops out of Ukraine.
    Everything else just sounds dubious.
     
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    Точно! Надо убить всех плохих, тогда останутся только хорошие, и мир во всем мире! :fly2:
     
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    Вот только плохие тут Европа, которая веками грабила и убивала сотни миллионов людей по всему миру.
     
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    I guess some nations in Europe still remember the outcomes of "Russian Mir" from 70 years ago.
    That is why in Poland the popularity of the sole political party that does not support Ukraine is at the border of statistical error.
    That's what Russia is... an error, an abnormality.
     
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    Now this is getting interesting :) Here we have many factors to consider. Russia is an anomaly?
     
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    Это вот этими результатами вы недовольны?

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    Т.е. ваши дедушки все-таки воевали за нацистов?

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    Впрочем если поляки твердо решили назло "русскому миру" исчезнуть с лица планеты - кто мы такие, чтобы им мешать?

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    Времени у них нет на полёты...
     
  20. -frog-

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    I'd say a tumour.
    It started expanding in the 17th century, to see the pinnacle of its growth in the 19th.
    Ever since then it faces problems associated with growth beyond its capabilities.
    Yet it attempts to re-instate its former glory, instead of making use of its vast resources and opportunities, thus following the path to its destruction and collapse. Russia's empty. It's inhabited by just 150M people, while it holds resources pursued by 1.4 billions of its immediate neighbours.
    Russia invaded Ukraine, because it wanted to re-instate its rule over these lands - failing to notice two important things - Ukraine, poor as it may be, has developed its pride and nationality over the past 30 years, and the Ukrainians feel that they belong to the "West", and not to the "East". The other thing is - no-one wants Russia there. It might have been welcomed in Donbas, and parts of Crimea in 2014, but it no longer is. Russian "bardak" has its consequences.

    The most striking thing about this war is its pointlessness - the Ukrainians will not surrender to the Russians, as expected by their command in the first days of that fucking war. Russia has failed to capture Ukraine and all it is now harvesting are subsequent losses. It's too proud a nation to admit failure, but this failure will bring about its demise. If Russia was to be ruled by sane people, caring for the future of their nation, it would withdraw from Ukraine, pay huge compensations, and send the butchers from its ranks to be judged in Hague. Instead its rulers pursue confrontation... loosing their case altogether.