Which maps should stay at FH MA?

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by mixer, Oct 12, 2009.

  1. mixer

    mixer Well-Known Member

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    In Russian thread it's discussed to remove 2 maps (ETO+BIGMED) from MA.

    Currenlty there are the following maps in rotation:

    - BigMed (big Europe with 4 CV, wbmedrl2)
    - AWT (ocean map with 4 CV, wbawt3)
    - Med3 (small Europe with 1 CV quakemap, wbmed3)
    - ETO (wbeto1)

    Other maps are bugged.

    Rotation can be changed to any reasonable order, e.g.
    -bigmed
    -awt
    -med3
    -awt
    -med3
    -eto
    -med3
    -awt
    and anew from beginning.

    In Russian map it's discussed to set order as
    -med3
    -awt
    and anew from beginning.

    Please post your comments here.
     
  2. allpay

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    1- My favorite map is: ETO (although reds has more fields and more advantage with britain)
    2- AWT
    3- Med3
    4- BigMed (first three maps rotation can be changed balanced, but not this one)
     
  3. aybars

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  4. FranzAugust

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    Since we do not have so many players like in the past. wbmed3 is best.
     
  5. demian

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    IMHO we need all 4.

    ETO is the most balanced one, with short and long distances .
    AWT is ok, but med3 is pathetic.
    If u need to remove something , remove med3.
    1 year already we have only AWT and med3 changing.
    Rotation should look like this imho:

    ETO
    AWT
    MEDRL2

    AWT
    ETO
    MEDRL2

    I really dont like the idea to have map just so u could reset reset reset.
    In reallity the best for buffers and streak fighters is to have bigger maps.
     
  6. gursah

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    Raids in ETO was fun. Must be in.
     
  7. Asmumy

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    ETO is the best!
     
  8. Red Ant

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    Hmmm, IMO all maps should stay ... wouldn't like to see any of them go. :( Although considering how little players there seem to be on lately, the huge Mediterranean map is currently a poor fit. At no point during the last TOD did I ever see more than 15 players online and that's just not enough for such a large map.
     
  9. looseleaf

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    I have to admit I an not sure of the names of the maps.

    However my favorites are:

    Western Euro map with England

    Map that has Eastern Europe and NO north Africa/Crete/Middle East.

    Pacific map- (not sure if there is more than one).

    I do not like the Big Euro/Med map with all the CV action.

    IMHO:

    1st) Western Euro.
    2nd) Eastern Euro.
    3rd) Pacific.


    and keep the pacific plane set OUT of the Euro maps and the Euro plane sets OUT of the Pacific map!

    That is to say: Plane sets for each map reflecting some degree of historical reality as much as possible- thank you.
     
  10. mixer

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    Sorry for inconveniences. I was just trying to change map, but server went down. Seems that map rotation is not working now.
     
  11. demian

    demian Well-Known Member

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    LOL , NP Mix:cheers:

    ( SEE? Map DOESNT want to be changed for some idiotical one)
    :p
     
  12. focker

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    fu boa
     
  13. joseh-

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    No doubt!
    ETO is the best! :super:
     
  14. -kum--

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    Especially, when no players in arena :D .
    Big maps need when players more than 40-50.
    What is max roster now???
     
  15. demian

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    Kum, roster can be bad because we play every tod AWT as well..
    In 2008 , there were only AWT and med3...
    Sometimes ppl tired to play everytime same map, especially with cv reupping at big fields.. furball, furball, furball... Cv, economy, short distance for buffs...
    Are u not tired to climb buff out of map before go to field?
    Why not ETO map?
    It has short and long distance between fields..
    Why do u think roster will improve if playing only small maps?
    Whenever players want short distance and furball, they go to test arena..
     
  16. -kum--

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    Were other problems in that period. Dispersal, for example.
    We will have 2 maps ;). Or 3 if keep ETO ...
    What problem? Time for climbing is the same.
    ETO, for my IMXO, can be or can't be. I don't see any problems with this map.
    Becouse when I enter the arena & see 2 players when big map with long distance, what I must to do?
    We need all players on 1 arena. It is more interesting.
    For me, no problem with ETO, but if ETO leaves I don't cry about it.
     
  17. demian

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    You should stop playing early in the morning Moscow time.
    When i see you in 7 o clock in the morning Moscow time, I dont know
    how many players you expect to see in arena...
    Kum, you play either in the evening, or in the morning.
    In the evening , no matter what map is, there are 10 players.
    In the morning in ur time, there are only 1-2 americans on.
    I am sorry if u dont understand, but pacific map with cvs reupping near enemy fields, is just too much for most of players.
    Mb u should understand how difficult and boring is for us to play only hvy zekes, or seafires, just so we could protect our cv near ur field, so it wont reup at our big field f1,f6,f11...
    Mb you like that gameplay, but most of players dont.
    Last year , many great pilots left fh , NOT furballers, but those good pilots that didnt want to play quake on fh. Only furballers we have now in arena, with just few pilots ready to take buff.
    Whole last year we had typical Eastern front settings with map that has CVs and cv planes.Try to understand what is like to fly from f19 to f17 on pacific map.
    Is that what u call flying?
    Or mb u prefer to fly from f11 to f19 while some other players taking ur fields in 5 min?
    Most of players are tired of 5 min flights, most of players dont want to be like letez and to plan actions 1 hour in advance..
     
  18. -kum--

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    Very, very seldom paying in the mornign MCK time.
    Yesterday evening ~ at 21:00 MCK were 2 players.
    Do you know me? So you must know that I'm bomber.
    Pacific map is great map. When cons capping small fields You with 2 other players can cap big or 2 meds in the enemy's rear.
    So, go in the enemy rear ;).

    PS: anyway, I don't against ETO. My attitude to ETO is neutrally.
     
  19. demian

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    Ok, since we finished with ETO, :), we can talk about medrl2:)

    So, what is the problem with big map? You will say, not enough players...
    For what? IF you as bomber pilot, can make sqd of 2-3 ppl, u can enjoy medrl2.
    Different thing is if you only want resets, or fast capping of many fields with 1 buff. That is mb ur preferance, but it is not community attitude,
    Nor community problem.
    If you cant find 3 players for ur sqd, is that roster's fault?
    I remember a specific tod with Turks on medrl2, with great buff raids.
    3+ buffs, plus ju-52, plus cover..... Yes, that is fun.
    I think Kum, that you have wrong idea about flying, because u dont seem to understand point of group playing.
    For any flying sim, essential is to FIRST make own SQD.
    Then that sqd can be part of bigger group.
    You dont have any right to expect from anyone to help u in ur attacks. Or, in ur own style of playing.
    I am saying this , because i think i know why would some buff pilot not like big map. That can only be case if u expect to bomb some field, jump out of plane, take ju/li, and cap field. IF that is the case, then ur motives for asking for just 2 maps are totally selfish. How many times u asked admins to change map? And how many times they changed it because u asked?
    And how many times of those times, admins rolled back tod from 1943 to 1940 , just because u asked to change map?
    Do u think many players liked the fact to fly tod from the start , just because u couldnt stand to play on big map?
    How many streaks you directly ruined by asking admins to change map?
    Do u ever think about that?
    You should, because me and you are not alone here.
    I dont want for you to have an impression that i hate u or something , i just say that ur sometimes very selfish.
    Buffing is not the only aspect of this game, just as buff killing is not . Nor is dogfighting. We have many players in here, everyone is different, we have different expectations. Just because 4 of u wrote on russian part of forum that u want small maps, doesnt mean admins should change it to small map.
    Doesnt mean admins should remove medrl2.
    What we should do here is, we should make poll.
    Real poll, with votes for maps.
    If players say they want only small maps, Ok.
    If they say they dotn want just small, Ok by me.
    But if u dont like results, u should accept them, and never again ask for changing map. If u can agree with that, we can ask Mixer or Exec for making such poll. IF u dont agree, we dont have anything to talk about anymore.
    Hope u understand.:)
     
  20. demian

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    Check arena, it happened again.
    ITs 1940.:(