http://park1.wakwak.com/~mitsu/ki43.avi Saw it on AH BBS - http://hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?&threadid=118228 .....i think the plane Ki43s are hunting are probably chinese liscense built Cr.42. Before the AVG, these were what Chenault was fighting with. Legend has it (according to God Is My Co-pilot author Robert Scott) he actually flew them himself & scored no small number of victories (but not in this flim) leading a bunch of Italian mercenary pilots
More likely they are Fiat CR 32 since, according to my sources, CR 42 didn't served in China. Attached quote from Squadron Signal In Action 172.
Ki 43 flight model on Wb is bad then. Can you see how fast is ki's rollrate on the video ? Really impresive.
Imho war and prewar movies (from guncams...) were made on 18 fps rate, wich makes everthing seem to be faster. See fe. old Chaplin fimls...
Just listen to engine and guns... They are absolutely normal. So, will you explain, how video could be faster than sound?
Sound most likely is faked. You cant hear anything in the plane ouside the engine. Also i doubt someone get audio equpment in filght in ?1937-1940? in Japan.
wtg for the comment btw, the furball immages are really impressive, anyone has something more about close fight with such turnfihts?
I am not about that. Most likely this documentary has been used in cinemas of that time. If it got sound, it got it back then. Do you want to say Japanese were making video and sound rows at different speeds, eh?
Vadim, in a WWII fighter cockpit you can heard only engine sound, from some pilots biografy i found that some couldn't even heard when they got pinged! lol but i'm sure 100% even if that Ki had a sound recorder (and i really doubt it) it was impossible to record the sound of an other airplane. btw, give me 1 month and i will tell you what you can heard in a P51 cockpit
got smth similiar 2 months ago - gold cv near F12 (awt) and hooordes of zekes and N1K1 - ech bullet had to hit something
i've read pilots say that they could hear pings even from little 7mm guns ("hail on a tin roof" is a phrase i've read too many times - WW2 pilots: great stories, but not always the most creative authors) & read some saying they could hear gunfire from nearby planes when it didnt even hit them...maybe it makes a big difference if someone else is yelling "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!" into the radio at the time
No, you don't understand me Japanese have made some inflight record, then, in studio, add sound to it, then show in cinemas for propaganda purposes. Back then. Do you think they have changed the speed of the video row?
here is the rl speed version http://www.saunalahti.fi/ladoga/Ki-43_slow.avi Guncam was 18fps, played 25fps so with 0.75 ratio we got the original speed back. Looks pretty familiar. I've been flying a lot ki-43 lately.