Fixing Me410 propose

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  1. _strafe_

    _strafe_ Well-Known Member

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    I've noticed Me410 doesn't have rockets available in FHL.
    That plane IRL it has rockets load. It can be seem in those links below:

    Picture 01
    Picture 02

    My source was the book "Messerschmitt Me210/410 in Action" from Squadron/signal Publications ISBN 0-898747-320-5
    Pages 36, 37 and 39

    Also I suggest that 30mm has an option to shot separately. It can be done like was did in Fw190 with real trigger added option.

    Torpedos was available to that bird too, version Me410B-5 (page 34 in that book above mentioned). Unfortunately until now I couldn't find any other sources with pictures....

    The ottos doesn't have a great dead view like FHL model. Pls check angle showed in picture5 below.

    rgds,
    Strafe
     

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    i read a book by the guy who lead KG51 in russia & later did the combat trials for rocket armed 410s. he said they cut performance at bomber alts too much to be effective & was sent to a desk job in italy as punishment
     
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    Hi rolandgarros.
    No doubt, rockets tubes reduce performance in any aircraft. Actually, on WWII R4Ms had one of the better aerodynamics shape reducing performance less than tubes. You can imagine how 4 or 3 rockets tubes under each wing would reduced performance in Me410, Bf110, P51, P47,.....

    Indeed Me410 used to be a good Zerstörers, even when carrying rockets.
    This text was copied from that same book on page 42.

    ?On 16 March, a force of Bf 110s and Me410 attacked about 500 B-17 Fortresses and 200 B-24 Liberators of 8th Air Force that were attacking the aircraft factories in South-Germany. The bombers were hit by Zerstörers units firing rockets and heavy cannons with some eighteen B-17s and B-24s being shot down. The Zerstörers waited for the moment when the short ranged escort fighters were forced to turn back by a lack of fuel, then they attacked. These tactics resulted in heavy American losses?
     
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    if strafe click mouse button to send plane propose in a forest with no develper around does it make a sound?
     
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    this guy who's book i read was complaining more about the lack of second stage blower than the effect of drag being the problem. maybe it was just fine, but he was uncomfotable in combat above full trottle height or maybe he wanted his vacation in italy & knew saying something negative about an Me would get it for him
     
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    whell, guess which steppe nomad woke up on the wrong side of the gir
     
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    me steppe nomad?! yes, me steppe nomad!
     
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    does panface or mongoloid (gloid) do you better?
     
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    thanx to read my post exec. I think your suggested setting is perfect.

    Can you ask developers to make those changes?
     
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    that post dated years ago, and the situation is already as described.
    except B-2/R4 for which we could not find ammo count.
     
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    Thnx exec. Personaly I don't like 7mm firing together 20mm. But its ok.
    How about rockets to be included in next FHL version, or in this atual version?
     
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    imho negative
     
  14. Gunther

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    I'd afraid that.
    In current RPS FHL 1.66, Pe2 can carry rockets, not clear evidence, pictures or datas, only that one showing rear fuselage device. Me410 has pictures, texts, versions and units that used then in WWII. Why not put rockets in Me410s?
     
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    Sorry for my insist that issue exec, but Pe2 still having rockets load In FHL 1.66, doesn't it?
     
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    :director: that's pe-3 and it can carry 8 rs and 700kg o'bombs
     
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    Pe-3 - yeah like we needed it anyway :p

    exec? it's the same "mistake" as in Pe-8 case? :)
    'cause it sure IS a MISTAKE! :)
     
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    why are u complaining about pe3? haven't found the polish cheat for it yet? :p :D