SiBEERians vs 312RAF scenario tryout _

SiBEERians vs 312RAF scenario tryout

Итак, вчера получено принципиальное добро от RBull на участие 312RAF в subj.

Коротко для всех, кто не знает, для чего все это делается. Никакого желания меряться у кого длиннее, просто есть идея на scenario арене откатать несколько пробных туров, чтобы на их базе устраивать потом большие сценарии.

Предварительно с MC и falcon в переписке обсуждались возможные детали, ниже будет короткий перечень предложений, из которых надо будет выработать общую концепцию.

К сожалению, в 312 большинство состава нерусскуязычные, потому, просьба постить предложения на аглицком (хотя русские посты бум стараться переводить).

Короткое резюме:
1. Место проведения - Scenario Arena, карта Британии.
2. Время проведения - пока не определено, но после 10.05.2003
3. Участники - SiBEERians и 312RAF (возможны рекруиты). Сценарий закрытый, то есть участвуют только представители сквадов и заявленные ими рекруиты.
4. Техника - предложено
spit5 (312) vs 109g2 (SB)
spit5 (312) vs 109f4 (SB)
5. Два арбитра (по одному для каждой стороны), с админскими правами на SA, следящих за взлетами и решающих спорные ситуации.
6. Непосредственно сценарий - очень обсуждаемо.

Коротко по пунктам.
1. Можно, конечно, и на TA, но с точки зрения ограничения возможного состава участников лучше на SA. Хотя бы для того, чтобы не пришлось всем объяснять на TA, почему это они не могут взлетать и рулить.
2. Со временем сложно. Большинство RAF разбросано по часовым поясам от Австралии до Канады (или в обратную сторону). У нас традиционное время сбора - пятница в 22 GMT, но, надо время обсуждать, чтобы всем было удобно и мы смогли собрать наибольшее количество участников.
3. Только сквады - потому что две причины. Первая - в сквадах есть большая дисциплина и организация, а для пусть даже маленького сценария это очень необходимо. Вторая - это пробная работа.
4. Варианты конечно же обсуждаемы. От 312 просьба - оставить 312 на спитах.
5. Кто имеет такие права из русскоязычной части FH? Насколько я понял из организованного ранее рамзеем сценария эти права могут временно даваться на определенный ник.
6. Обсуждались два варианта как рабочие:
- прикрытие группы бомберов (SB), атака на бомберов (312)
- файтерская битва (например группа прикрытия, или несколько групп прикрытия, бомберов отвлеклась на нападение).

Высказывайте мнения.


Yesterday we've discussed subj. with RBull and the result that 312 is oficially agree to take part in action.
The idea is to make the tryout sq. vs sq. scenario, check potential problems and find solutions.

We have discussed with mcgru and falcon some ideas in e-mail and there are the completed (till today) details ready to discuss.

1. Place - SA
2. Time - not set yet, but after May 10, 2003
3. Parts: SiBEERians and 312RAF (possible recruits), closed scenario, only regustered members and recruits.
4. Two options:
- spit5 (312) vs 109g2 (SB)
- spit5 (312) vs 109f4 (SB)
5. Two arbiters with admin rights for SA
6. Need to discuss scenario itself (what we play, etc.)

Details:
1. It is possible to make subj on TA, but SA is better imho.
2. We strongly need to set the correct time for the most squad members precence. Please ideas.
3. Only squads (and authorised recruits) because we need strong organization for that scenario. Do not forget - this is tryout, we need to check many details and it would be better to do that with squads, imho.
4. Discussable, but 312, I think, would prefer spitV if possible.
5. We need two people with admin rights (or temporary admin rights) for SA for the period of the subj. They will check the timeline, rules, etc.
6. Any ideas what exactly we will perform? There are two options for now:
- cover and buffs (SB) try to bomb the field, 312 intecept
- cover lost buffs and have to fight with attaking cons.

312, please your ideas.

 

I worked already for that purpose (about some days of writing) and posted it on this forum, nobody reaplied and the few who did it, they had only critics and unconstructive comments, so i leaved it, but if it could be usefull to you the thread is named FH World League , i tried to search it on International and on this forum but i can't find it.

 

i haven't noticed your topic, odi.
anyways, it's not late to start ever.

 

No prob exec
btw could you help me searching that thread? it's more or less one year hold, named FH World League..it's 1 hour i'm trying to find it but without sucess

 

Hi

@ Odi

I think it is this one, you are looking for
World Tournament

Regards

 

Nope, i found it too, i posted a looong post with all rules of a tournament, i remember for sure that fla replied to it.

 

http://forum.wbfree.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6258&highlight=tournament
http://forum.wbfree.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3402&highlight=tournament
http://forum.wbfree.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2799&highlight=tournament
http://forum.wbfree.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3153&highlight=tournament
http://forum.wbfree.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3374&highlight=tournament

http://forum.wbfree.net/forums/sear...id=37539&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

 

Предложения такие:

RAF выбирают три поля в Британии. Их задача - оборона любыми средствами.

SB имеет задачу захватить хотя-бы одно поле.

Из вооружения:

SB - 109F2, 109F4, Ju88, Ju87, Ju52
RAF - Spit Vb (mcI, mcII...)

В связи с малым количеством игроков (а карта, насколько я помню, довольно большая), считаю целесообразным не ограничивать количество жизней, вылетов и т.д. Проще будет вести статистику, аналогичную МА.

Сценарий ограничить по времени.

 

Thanks a lot exec, btw where it was gone?




badboy, the link is the first one

 

WBWL 2002 Season





1. Have fun. Lets try and remember this is for the next xx weeks (time depend by number of squads enlisted) (Unless more than 8 team sign up then the schedule will be adjusted accordingly.

2. The map (to designate)

3. The team who scores the most points per game wins that battle.

4. A team may be composed of up to 3 squads. All pilots that fly must belong to a squad scheduled to fly that evening (no mercenaries).

5. Each squad shall submit a web site that will provide access to a pilot roster. All pilots flying in this war must be on that roster.

DEPLOYMENT

6. A team may not have more than xx (to designate) pilots in a game at any time. If a team exceeds xx pilots, they will be penalized 1 point for every 3 minutes per pilot that they exceed that number.

7. A team may occupy no more than 3 bases. You can rearm and refuel at any base not destroyed, but you can only enter, or restart at one of your team?s 3 selected bases. The only exceptions are as follows:
A pilot may exit the game immediately and change dromes if he mistakenly is not at the correct base. A pilot?s starting base is destroyed. Once a pilot becomes airborne, he must stay at that drome.

8. If your base is destroyed, you must relocate your pilots to one of the other two bases. The team destroying any drome must announce on open chat which drome it was and its location. Under no circumstances may you ever have more than 8 pilots per drome. Any pilot spawning from a downed base or one not his home base who does not immediately land and exit will be penalized 1 point. Furthermore any kills or targets destroyed while that pilot is illegally in the game shall not be awarded while any deaths will be counted.

9. No base hopping. Any pilot exiting the game and then returning later must return to the same base he used earlier. A pilot may not move to a different base if he replaces a different pilot. A pilot must use the same base for the whole night (exception, if his base is destroyed) Substitute pilots will spawn from and use the same home drome of the pilots they replace.

10. A pilot may only change planes at his home drome and only after landing and having his plane and prop come to a complete stop. You may not change planes or exit the game at any other drome, but your home drome (the one you spawn from).

SCHEDULE

11. The home team (2nd team number on schedule) will have the choice of which planes/side to fly. The Home team should notify the other team in the forum by posting which side they choose by posting that selection in the HF forum not later than the Monday before game time.

12. Please indicate Allies or Germans and your team number and squad name. If you don't let post by 12:00 PM EST on Monday prior to your game, then the server will be the same way it was the previous game or on random. Let us know so its right.

13. All games will be scheduled well in advance (see schedule). If the server is up, the game will count. There will be no make up games, unless a server fails to go up.
POINTS

14. Scoring will be as follows.

Kill = 1
Death = -1 (please know a death may be caused by AA or crashing also)
Bombing will score as follows.
Factory= 4
Doks = 5
Small field = 6*
Medium field = 7*
Main field = 8*

*: You must get a " Fiedl F"x" captured by xx" message from the server chat to count. Any field hardened without a message will not be counted. The server logs will list all eligible targets destroyed by number, and pilot receiving credit thereof. The scoring software will total the kill/death/target points for the final score.

16. Any scoring dispute or modification needed must be submitted to the scorekeepers by midnight the Tuesday following the game. Any score modification after that might not be accepted.

17. The tiebreaker for any battle shall be the team with the least number of deaths that evening. If that is still tied, the team with most bombing points will be awarded the win.

CONDUCT

18. A pilot may not crash into the ground or a structure in the efforts to prevent from being killed by the enemy. All pilots must make every effort to RTB in all circumstances. Furthermore, A pilot is forbidden from landing his aircraft anywhere other than a ?live? friendly drome.

19. A bomber may bomb planes, use any ammo, and use rockets except in aerial combat.

20. Scouts may shoot planes anywhere including planes sitting on the runway, and taking off.

21. No ditching planes. Every effort will be made by every pilot to return to base. A ditched plane will be recorded as a death for scoring purposes. .

30. Pilots may not harden their own targets. Pilots may not shoot, rocket, or bomb their own targets or any part of their targets intentionally for any reason.

31. Please try to avoid collisions, as they are undesirable. If you do get rammed, remember it does take two. Fly defensively as to avoid it.

32. Only commanders should use All Chat channel (except to salute). All other pilots should use TM/SQ chat only. Please do not engage in verbal conflicts on open chat for any reason.

33. Any pilot with a problem should consult on TM/SQ chat only with their team commander.

34. Roger Wilco, Battle Com, and other voice comm. is allowed. Beware, as some reports say it can affect your fps.

THE CUP

35. The top 3 teams in each division will go to the Fly Offs. The top team in each division shall receive a bye week and the next two teams play in division. Then the top team and winner play each other for a division Champion. The 2 division Champions shall then play each other a best of 3 games for the WBWL Cup. The schedule is to be announced at a later date.

[exec: corrected typo by Odisseo's request... strange, every one may correct his own posts anytime]
[odisseo: i didn't known it in that times ]

 

вам подкрепление не надо? я вообче то родом с Урала

 

Мне кажется, что это тогда будет очень долгий сценарий, а если по времени ограничить - будет половинчато, наверное. Карта, действительно, не маленькая. Хотя как вариант может иметь право на жизнь.

Кстати, какое ограничение по времени? Час? Два?

 

Re: SiBEERians vs 312RAF scenario tryout

I will have time:
mon-thu: 17-20
fri: 17-22
sat: 8-22
sun: 8-20
all gmt.
maletin@lc-jg69.de
icq=57794108

 

Fine, thx Maletin.

 

maybe

@odi: what about pilots in more than 1 sq?

 

They could fight for all squqad they are in, but if 2 of theyr squad should fight, then they would have to choice on wich one play the scenario

 

What about JG54 taking part on one of those ?

I could be one of the admins, but i'm really bz with univ until the 15th, but after that it's cool

 

Давай обсудим. Сколько нам хватит наиграться?

А вообще временной тайм-аут позволяет зафиксировать победу RAF. Т.е. если SB взяли поле - они победили. Если не успели - победа RAF. По истории, IMHO было почти так

 

Originally posted by falcon
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Давай обсудим. Сколько нам хватит наиграться?

А вообще временной тайм-аут позволяет зафиксировать победу RAF. Т.е. если SB взяли поле - они победили. Если не успели - победа RAF. По истории, IMHO было почти так
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Я думаю, что два часа нам позарез хватит.

А зачем RAF победа? Чесслово, ради удовольствия все. Я согласен даже в бурьяне гореть

 

Originally posted by -fla--
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What about JG54 taking part on one of those ?

I could be one of the admins, but i'm really bz with univ until the 15th, but after that it's cool
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Fla, this is a tryout, we do not make the tournament here and now. After we finish this we will agree (I hope) to play the same game with other squad.

Really, I do not like the idea, that sq. vs sq. fight, or scenario is performed once per 2-3 moth... better if every week there is someaction on SA (and that is not now). All we do - we try to start.

Thanks for joining RAF will count you as next target