Heinkel 111 in Battle of Britain

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by achtun, Feb 25, 2002.

  1. achtun

    achtun Well-Known Member

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    Hi u all, i guess this will be a seen-many-times-before topic, but.... whay is not there a heikel 111? AFAIK in BoB it was the most used 2 engines bomber.... looks like loads big amount of 100kg bombs, i actually didn't checked it's data yet, i just was watching to "Battle of Britain" movie, ( http://us.imdb.com/Title?0064072 ) very nice one! u've seen it?

    go to ur videoclub and rent it! ;)

    There are many interesting scenes, including my favourite a stukas's attack to Dover's radars... lovely! ;)
    I must say the stukas are attacked by spitfires that eat them with any loose, of course....

    well what about the he 111? what happenede to it? i guess i'm not the first one who asks about it... something wrong must be on it , just tellme what ;)


    And second... what about a Battle of Britain scenario?? we can make it on vacations that are coming... we even have the terrain ;)
     
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    -nicae- Well-Known Member

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    hmmm i think maybe its because golds dont need (at least didnt need before) another medium bomber. ju88 and g4m are there.
    hmmm

    btw, we already did have a BoB scenario. werent you here at that time?
     
  3. achtun

    achtun Well-Known Member

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    BoB scenario?
    last one i remmeber was the 2 fleets one, where i must say i was discoed and killed before being able to enjoy it :D

    then forget what i said :D

    BTW was england conquered?
     
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    -nicae- Well-Known Member

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    it was axis victory :)
    you had to see gmac's planning with the email list. real fun! for allies it was just mindless furballing at 5km :)
     
  5. HoHun

    HoHun FH Beta Tester

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    Hi Nicae,

    >hmmm i think maybe its because golds dont need (at least didnt need before) another medium bomber. ju88 and g4m are there.
    hmmm

    Golds do need another medium bomber:

    - They have no aircraft for the high-speed bomber role, like filled by the Mosquito. The Junkers Ju 88S should do nicely.

    - They have no medium bomber for the Spanish Civil War period, which becomes more and more interesting thanks to the I-15 Rgreat has developed. The Junkers Ju 52 bomber variant would be great for that.

    Reds do need another medium bomber, too:

    - They have no medium bomber for the early war period at all. The Tupolev SB-2 would be a very nice aircraft for this role. Even better, it would also fit into the Spanish Civil War :)

    Regards,

    Henning (HoHun)
     
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    -nicae- Well-Known Member

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    i153, not i15 ;)

    oooo SB2s!! SB2s, i153s, brewsters.. then we will have soviet-finnish war :)
     
  7. Mach-1

    Mach-1 Well-Known Member

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    Hi all


    Sorry all, but in my concepsion, no add He-111 Series in WB original is a BIG BIG BIG BIG error of ADM mens of IENstupid...

    The He-111 is one mark of ww2 history...

    Salute all
     
  8. rgreat

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    i think me410 will fits nicely in high speed bomber role.
     
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    -nicae- Well-Known Member

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    does 410 have bombardier?
     
  10. gahis

    gahis FH Sound Developer

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    it ""might"" have a bombidier, because turrets are parascope operated., Might have a scope like in the B5N
     
  11. HoHun

    HoHun FH Beta Tester

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    Hi Rgreat,

    >i think me410 will fits nicely in high speed bomber role.

    I'm looking very much forward to the Me 410, but will it have a bomb sight for level bombing?

    The Ju 88S was able to carry a heavier load, anyway.

    Regards,

    Henning (HoHun)
     
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    i'm against ju-88s without ki-67 or p1y, and tu-2s, a-26b, of course. it's new class of airplanes, not covered in our planeset, so it must be founded balanced.
     
  13. stooge

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    i want wb to develop the 'baka' human bomb for jap planes dropped from b5n2's or g4m2's
    a human pilot controls the bomb like in a v1 rocket

    he111's should also be in i guess and we need a pearl harbour senario
     
  14. -exec-

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    b5n2 cannot lift ohka
     
  15. stooge

    stooge Well-Known Member

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    the g4m2 deffintely can
    any chance it can be done though?
    how about a pearl harbour senario?
     
  16. -exec-

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    if i would be a developer/admin, i'd put ohka to idle priority.

    in planes chair there's a lot of work to do.
    in scenarios chair there's a queue of applications.
     
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    does 410 have bombsight for level bombing?
     
  18. -exec-

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    it has StuVi-5B - the bombing sight for diving from Ju-87D.
    "Stuka Visier". read technical history ;)
     
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    well if stuka-D doenst have norden, 410 wont.
    how can 410 balance mosquito then?
     
  20. HoHun

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    Hi Exec,

    >i'm against ju-88s without ki-67 or p1y, and tu-2s, a-26b, of course. it's new class of airplanes, not covered in our planeset, so it must be founded balanced.

    In fact, the Mosquito bomber currently fills the role of the high-speed bomber for the Allied side, while the Axis have no counterpart.

    Since I enjoy flying the Mosquito when I'm Red, I'd like to see a plane with similar capabilities for the Golds, too.

    By the way, do you think it might be practical to give the Mosquito an Otto with no gun or ammo? That would simulate the navigator who historically watched the airspace behind the bomber and warned the pilot when bandits appeared. Since the Mosquito has sub-standard rear view in the game, that would be very helpful.

    Regards,

    Henning (HoHun)