Ukraine

Discussion in 'Warbirds General Discussion' started by vasco, Feb 21, 2022.

  1. pakman

    pakman Well-Known Member

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    Elvis has left the building
     
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    In dry matter it may be said that our nature is to love all the people (except Polish of course :D) and his is to hate Russians.
    The question is how had this difference appeared?

    Bythe way. I respect the old Hollywood's comedies. In one of it "Raise the periscope". There was the phrase "Polishing your torpedo, sir!?" I still cant catch the humor - how it's related to Poland?
    As a Polishing guy could you clarify this for me?
     
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  3. -frog-

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    Just hope you'll realize... some day...
     
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    In next life.
    You dont want to attend any lunatic Putin's speach. But in one speech he said we russians all gonna go to paradise one day. All together.
    So, we are prepared.

    Are you?
     
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  5. mamali

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    А я смотрю бойцы тут трудные попались. Прям броня толщиной в ладонь на лбу.
    Мне в Гарвардской тусовке проще объяснить было что к чему.
    Молодёжь понимает лучше что такое капитал, что такое глобализация, что такое геополитика и как всё это между собой увязано, очевидно.
     
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  6. mcgru-

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    yes, we invaded.
    but what for? are you possible to understand?
    do you think we do that just to occupy and gather taxes from poor citizens?
    please, try to answer just if you were a Putin :)

    "This will also be true of a united Germany in NATO. The very fact that we are ready not to deploy NATO troops beyond the territory of the Federal Republic gives the Soviet Union firm security guarantees."
    NATO speeches, 17 May 1990.
    google it. search by any word.
    https://www.nato.int/docu/speech/1990/s900517a_e.htm

    you cant even understand what kinds of threat that "'right to choose alliance" brings to Russia.
    we are NOT as infantile as you are.
     
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    2 frog, redant:

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    find the difference?
     
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    for left side - yes, you're right.
    Also continued: Obamtler, (Trump the single president who didnt start war, so skipping him), Bidenler (not yet started).
    Obama straitfully continued the policy of StateDep.

    this invasion - is not good, of course, but it is neccessary to cut off banderlogs cancer on the Ukraine body.


    good to hear
     
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    You are quoting a speech, not a treaty, and the wording is "we are ready to", not we have committed to. At any rate, a single person could not, even if they wanted to, make this kind of commitment for the whole of NATO, because NATO is a multi-national organization, not a personal fiefdom.

    But I have an actual ratified treaty for you, one in which Russia agreed to not only recognize Ukraine's territorial integrity as-is (i.e. in its then borders), but to actively protect it from outside aggression. That treaty is called the Budapest Memorandum. But you've already made it clear that the sovereignty of nations means nothing to you, so of course I wouldn't expect you to honor treaties either.
     
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    When country security is at stake, any "memorandums" with hostile states are void.

    Political solutions were presented, but rejected from your side.
     
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    it is good that you noted that there were NO ratified documents, just a speech... (fuck Gorbachov and fuck Yeltsyn for that)
    OK.
    Now, please, cite from from Budapest Memorandum words saying that Russia obliged to keep soverenity of Ukraine.
     
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    Ukraine exited from this treaty several years ago.
     
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    Was it non-existent the moment you invaded Crimea in 2014?
    BTW - how's your Facebook?
    Your government is about to shut it down :)

    Flight bans already starting.
    SWIFT - Germany just changed its mind, so you'll be fucked off.
    Taiwan to suspend gas imports, and joined the US ban on electronics.
    UEFA just suspended your matches.
    FIFA will either relocate your World Cup qualifier with Poland, or call it w/o for Poland.
    And you've been just suspended in the Council of Europe.

    Nice.
    That's just 1.5 days into the conflict.

    Way to go!

    Needless to say you've just "sponsored" Ukraine a huge morale booster with those 13 poor souls answering "Русский военный корабль. Иди нахуй". I don't know if they existed, if that's not just propaganda, but for now it's such a powerful tool of Ukrainian propaganda, they won't miss to exploit.

    Another shot in the foot with that orphanage.
    Well it happens that you bomb civilians, or even hospitals, during the war.
    But hitting an orphanage surrounded by nothing of military significance is such a brilliant "own goal"
     
  16. rgreat

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    I don't use facebook.
    Sport is outside of politics - yeah, right.
    It is all about money and politics, for a long time.
    Do not care.

    Anyway: you worry about trivial things.

    Worry about if we all still be alive in a year.
     
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  17. Flk

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    У чувака искажённые представления о нас.
    Какая нафиг мордокнига? Что это? :)
    Запрет полётов первая ввела Англия. Ну ок, для неё теперь тоже запрет, пускай облетают РФ где хотят. А нам их острова ещё на карте поискать надо.
     
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    Этот пшек знатный русофоб. Я его еще с 2000-х помню.
     
  19. Flk

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    Понятно. Раньше не обращал на него внимания.
     
  20. sharky

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    Не нем клейма некуда ставить. С ВЛД вместо лба и коричневой жижей вместо мозгов. Сейчас все эти нацики побегут к ним, пусть хле6нут говна которого они так долго поддерживали.