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  1. -Shai-

    -Shai- Well-Known Member

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  2. -frog-

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    Of course they were.
    That is why they decided to assault through red forest.
    The air is particularly clean there, as the area is deemed unfit for human presence for another 100 years or so.
     
  3. vasco

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    It's all a matter of taste.
     
  4. vasco

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    In line with my "no rudeness unanswered" personal policy, I'll reply to that.
    Also in line with everyone's effort (including yours) to "open the eyes of the Others", I'll reply to that.

    We already told you, those are well known facts for anyone interested in the politics of the area.
    Some of us here included.
    But, as the article says, it has more to do with the past of this battalion. Including past crimes.
    And more important, this movement gained momentum because of the first Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2014. Because hate leads to hate. And in our dear Eastern Europe it takes some very disgusting forme of nationalism. Not that other societes are saved from it, our western friends have their own neo-nazi and supremacist varieties of dickheads.

    No matter the crimes of 2014-2015, no matter the continuous existence of such scum in the Ukrainian society, the Russian invasion and crimes can't be justified.
    Your government didn't save anyone, it only made things worse for an entire country.
    At times your government (and you too) has invoked stupid arguments, that would have applied to any country - almost any country has extremists and nazis.
    At times the "historic necessity" to build reunite all the "Russian countries" (tho the Ukrainians don't identify themselves as Russians).
    This "historic necessity" also resulted in the "fight the West, they are our enemies" idea.

    The POINT:
    This invasion is not a solution, for anything.
    The order to invade is the product of a cynical mind, like Putin's.
    It led to thousands of deaths and only made things worse for the Ukrainians and for yourselves - although you seem to be still needing some time to digest this.
     
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    this is 1-year school deduction
    you never saw Putin's biography by Kondrashov (even after we ASK you to see) - so stop to rave.
    moron! on Donbass there ALREADY WERE 14000 deaths made by Keiv's banderlog's regime!
    And they wanted to continue forcefully return Donetsk with same casualities percentage as in Mariupol if they'd allowed to do so.
     
  6. vasco

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    Then there's mcgru...

    Fuck off with that already, I don't give a fuck about the idiot's biography.
    You're stuck in this thing, get over it.

    Mudak, where do you come up with those figures?
    Let me tell you: you added the number of dead Russian soldiers, dead Ukrainian soldiers and civilians.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas#Casualties
    While about Russian soldiers we can assume most of them were killed by the Ukrainians (since they invaded Ukraine) and only a small amount by friendly fire (it's a constant craze in your army), the number of dead Ukrainian soldiers can be safely attributed to the Russian army.
    Then the civilians - about 4000 - both sides shelled cities. Those casualties were mostly during the first years.
    So wtf are you adding here?
    Wtf are you trying to justify?

    Who's bombing cities now?
    Who's killing civilians?
     
  7. isaev

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    Still can't figure out, why you so worry?
    Are you russian? Or you live in Ukraine? Or, may be, you have business in that area?
     
  8. vasco

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    Out of compassion.

    But I can't figure out why are you so indifferent to those horrors!
    It does involve your country, after all.
     
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    You know nothing about our country and what we worried about.
    But why you don't worry about "those horrors" in Iraq, for example? Out of compassion?
     
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  11. vasco

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    Tactical stupidity

     
  12. -frog-

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    This morning we had a demonstration of strategic lack of responsibility.
    They fought 5 weeks to capture Kharkiv.
    They let two Ukrainian Mi-24s demolish their main fuel depot at Belgorod.
     
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    microbe has a volume greater than your brains, moron.
     
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    Another "bright" answer by mcgru-.
    Way to go chap!
    BTW- YT is going to get blocked in RF early in April - watch some content (especially if you're premium user) as long as you can.
    Your central bank is going to run out gold reserves some time or other, so remember to buy some dollars - I guess your reserves will last till July, maybe August, and then your Rubles will become worthless.
    Please do not acquire them as your infamous Denis Cibenko did.
    Poor lad - thought he was there to loot and rape (aka "denazify")... and he will end fertilizing the Ukrainian soil.
     
  15. vasco

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    :(
     
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    His microbe seems to be touched by evil, but apart from that still "a bit human".
    Got kids?
    I guess mcgru's bug is something similar to the Plankton from SpongeBob SquarePants series - just stuck to the "wrong" side of the truth.
    You can't say he's stupid - no he's the "smartass villain" in a world there are numerous simpletons "at your side".
    But he's wrong.
    He made the wrong assumptions at the very beginning, and sticks to them...
    Either because he's not that smart after all, or because he's made, by the cruel system, to believe "in what he should".

    That's also the question of "getting to get another perspective".
    I've visited some 20 foreign countries to date.
    I wonder, how many did our interlocutors visit?
     
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    So now that the de-Nazification of Kiev is off the table, what's the new plan?
     
  18. rgreat

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    Who knows...
    Its only start of phase 2 of the operation.
     
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    your brain is same as vasco has.

    ALL world leaders know Putin as a very clever man, but vasco and frog name him "idiot"... :)
    you are full fools! oak-kind morons!
     
  20. vasco

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    Yes. ALMOST like Trump