hmmm why not earn kills to those who force a con to ditch? ditcher still gets killed according to current rules. why not give a victory to the shooter if the ditcher loses? maybe there can be something like 'ditch kill of xxxxxx from xxxxx squad' opinions? nic
I really think that ditches should be counted as kills if not landed in airfield area. Now you have to actually make someone crash to get a victory for him and I often see pilots chasing some flying rubbish with all possible smoke colours behind... That's mean and unhonourable ! If someone is already going down, why finish him off ??? After I finally shoot someone down (well, not too often though... ), he bails out or, if he's too low, he can ditch to survive. Why must he go in flames ?? For me shooting at a/c ditching in the field it the same as shooting bailed pilots... It REALLY pisses me off... For those who do that (on purpose) should be court martial ! Once more, ditches (at least those not on runways) *should be credited with kills* - it's a way to finish a duel with honour. ------------------ "Pacifism is a nice hobby and when you practice it, enjoy! But always remember that the real life has a tendancy to intrude on hobbys..."
well if i see a ditcher and no one else does, well kiss your little --- goodbye!!! no mercy!! yout \r as good as dead !! so say your prayers, your a gonner
I'm not sure, but imo ditchs were credited as kills in RL "I'm starting to think that this 7.92mm is too weak, too many pieces flying around..."
yeah i want kills earned for ditches because then you dont have to kill the one who lost his engine or whatever. he survives, keeps his streak and you earn your deserved victory. it will help you ditch safely later on, you will see!
i insist, since i have no response from anyone that could make the change happen. my proposal: make all ditches earn kills, when the ditcher is damaged of course. make it work like bailing. when u bail over friendly territory, the kill is earned. why not do it with ditch too? why not?
i agree nic... today i shot a few planes, their engins were out (black smoke), the planes were evidently out of combat. It was a victory. But i got no kill, beacouse of the ditch. I don't feel like chasin a con dvn to the ground, waitin till he' speed & alt het so low he can't even evade & the execute him. I don't feel like it, because the victory should have been mine anyway - he was out of order yet. BTW... today i pinged one spit & one hurri by 16 x 20mm mg 151/20. NO VISUAL DAMAGE !!! Both flew away and landed . No parts faaling, no smoke, nada, nothing... Did someone mess with the gun or was I extremely unlucky ? (c'mon 10 x 20 mm !?!?!?) The planes should have fallen apart in notime ! ------------------ -blue- 302 Polish SQ Poznanski
agree with nicae, thats will end kills of ditched plane. and another sample of mg151/20 when im shot dwn b25 from .50 mc202 they burn from 20-40 bullets, but when hit from mg151/20 30 bullets is not enaugt to kill. Same metod of kill and same distance, aimed in center of buff. And why burninng buff still shoting? When im flying red 20-36 bullets from p51 will burn any lw plane. Now 10-20 x 20 mm ans fighters still in air. Once average count on 3 downed 109 was 33 bullets .50 from f6f Its that normal?
If kill or not, scores or not, why to shoot him after victory Btw. I just read some books about finnish pilots. I was happy to find out that RL pilots really cared if their opponent survived alive. They wanted to shoot planes down. If enemy pilot bailed or ditched they were happy. Most soviet pilots did this too. But there were some fanatics who were enough brainwashed to think "every white bandit capitalistic dog is better dead" and shoot chutes. But I would blame their system for that. fly so that everyone has fun i try too. ------------------ -illo-
I feel I have to give my two cents on this (no, I'm not american to use that particular expression ). In WW2, kills were awarded for downing (or even strafing, though I'm not sure those last ones were on a different class) planes. They didn't care if you made it explode in mid-air or forced it to ditch his plane somewhere. The fact is, anyone that forced another to ditch his plane was, in fact,awarded a kill. So, I do believe any ditch outside field should award a kill to whoever forced him down. Do mind the fact that the downed pilot may keep his streak if he landed in friendly territorry! rcosta Sturmtruppen
exactly illo, but we arent earned with victory here in FH if we dont shoot at the ditching plane! if we were, i would be glad in letting all ditch whenever they would like, even with 1x7mm of mine
