Дума тяжкая...

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  1. Smoker

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    А вообще то если серьезно то торсионная система в танке стоит не зря. Все таки 40-60 тон махина. И чем больше катков с торсионами тем плавней ход....
    Тем более я не помню а на етом «звери» гироскопная система стабилизации стояла? Вроде как нет. Так что катков у него там как раз. :)
     
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    а у lupen дома я видел модельку зеро с четырьмя ракетами. на вопрос откуда отвечает, что оттуда же. родные.
     
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    Если я не ошибаюсь вертикальной или горизонтальной стабилизации орудия не имел ни один серийный танк WW2
     
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    А мне склероз подсказывает, что имел, вертикальную, а может и не один ;)
     
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    Ну хоть поделись мнением своего склероза....
     
  7. Denis

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    В A6M in Action утверждается, что А6М7 мог нести на подкрыльевых узлах вместо бомб 8 ракет возду-воздух (стр. 43). Кинул бы скан, но сетка чтой-то того...
     
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    На Шермане был вертикальный стабилизатор.
     
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    да, я видел это у Бауэра тоже.
    только вот самой ракеты я не видел - нету инфы в нете. наверное была пробная и может больше одного вылета не делала.
     
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    off.

    А те, которые делают больше одного вылета, это которые возвращались после выполнения "боевого задания" и прыстыковывались обратно к зеро? :flyer: :p
     
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    да. ф таком случае их можно сфотографировать и вообще представить общественности.
     
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    Русские хакеры взломали систему управления ракетами "Томагавк" - теперь они называются "Бумеранг".
    Так что-ли? :)
     
  13. -kash-

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    Ис не жаловался на износ бандажей.
    На плавность хода вроде бы тоже, с такой то инерционностью...

    Как сделать сварной шов?
    Суровая нитка и закрасить?

    Как сделать рикошет от снаряда?
    Горячим гвоздем?
     
  14. ddt

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    Каш, лучше пробоину сделай, и мирно лежащую в сторонке башню :)

    Что же касается количества катков - рискну высказать предположение что сделали это для уменьшения нагрузки на каток.
     
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    >Каш, лучше пробоину сделай, и мирно
    Рука не поднимается, красивая киска :)
     
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    А у меня начатый 110Г кордовый 1:8 под 10-кубовое двигло гниёт..
     
  17. Denis

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    Исчусчий да обрящет - на www.j-aircraft.com на борде в ФАКЕ по флотским самолетам лежит:

    Japanese air to air rockets for zero

    Posted By: Paul <mailto:paulmicklos@prodigy.net?subject=Japanese air to air rockets for zero>
    Date: Wednesday, 6 December 2000, at 3:46 p.m.

    Hi guys
    I was wondering if any of you had the stats for the air to air rockets used on the zero or the aireal bombs the japanese used to drop on other planes. Mainly looking for range, and dimentions of the bombs and rockets, any help would be nice,
    Thanks for your time.
    Paul

    Re: Japanese air to air rockets for zero

    Posted By: richard dunn <mailto:rdunn@rhsmith.umd.edu?subject=Re: Japanese air to air rockets for zero>
    Date: Monday, 11 December 2000, at 3:08 p.m.

    In Response To: Japanese air to air rockets for zero (Paul)

    Paul
    Maybe I can be of a little help on the bombs or at least one type. This data comes from a translation (Cincpac-Cincpoa 11198) of Japanese Air HQ explanatory notes on the Type 99 #3 Mark III bomb, Mod 1. Date Nov 1 1943.

    In comparison to an earlier version "the arming period of this bomb (the period necessary for the bome to revolve 1000 rpm from the time of dropping) has been shortened and the bomb will detonate at a time setting of 3 seconds while traveling at 240-250 knots."

    "The nose and body are welded together, and the tail assembly is joined to the body by an adapter..."
    "There is a sheet-steel charge cylinder 1 mm thick with clusters and yellow phosphorus inside the bomb case..."
    length 693mm, width at widest point 147mm, weight of clusters 10.3 kg (144 units), burster charge 1.5kg, overall wgt 34 kg.

    Tip of the nose green, second ring silver, body grey, tail fin strut red.

    There are lots more technical details but this may provide some of the info you are interested in. Range can be inferred from the speed and time given above.

    Early bomb attacks (from Allied reports) were from overhead with bomb dropping a/c flying in same direction as attacker. Later (presumably with the bomb desribed above) attacks were dives from the frontal quarter with the bomb "lobbed" by a pull up before release. In a successful attack on a PB4Y in Western New Guinea in May 1944 the Zeros approched from head on below bomber level, pulled up and lobbed their bombs. The number employed suggested they were equipped with the five bomb racks documented in the photos in Cincpac-Cincpoa Weekly Intel Sum v. I #4 p 15-16.

    Hope this helps.
    Rick Dunn

    Re: Japanese air to air rockets for zero

    Posted By: richard dunn <mailto:rdunn@rhsmith.umd.edu?subject=Re: Japanese air to air rockets for zero>
    Date: Wednesday, 13 December 2000, at 6:22 a.m.

    In Response To: Re: Japanese air to air rockets for zero (Paul)

    Paul
    Here are a few more items from the report cited. On the center section are four rotation vanes as well as suspension lugs on the top and bottom. Report gives details on alternative fuzes and primers. Timer could be adjusted.
    A standard small model bomb release mechanism is used but it is necessary to modify the tail arming vane before use because it is not adapted to the release mechanism.
    Bomb could detonate on contact as well by timing.
    Additional (or alternative ) info from a U.S. intel report.
    A Zero 21 was captured on Saipan with racks for five of these bombs under each wing. These were said to weigh 32kg (70.5 lb). Length 24.5 in, diameter 5.75 in.
    "Of particular interest are the bent tail fins and the additional spiral fines welded to the bomb body itself. Ordnance experts have identifies these as the Navy incediary (shrapnel) type 32 kg bomb intended for air to air bombing. The body fines have been added to the standard bomb, apparently as an after thought, to impart additional rotational effect and thus presumably increase accuracy. It will be noted that nose plugs are fitted and tail fuzes used...This type fuze can be set on the ground, for delayed action from five to twenty seconds and requires a rotation of 1000 rpm before it can function. This means that height of release would have to be at least 500 feet above the bombers but more probably would approximate 1000 feet."
    Also according to this report "The bomb is usually painted grey with a two inch silver band around the nose, a one inch silver band on theend of the tail fins, and two red lines diametrically opposite from nose to tail."
    This report also says there are 198 pellets (vice 144 in the Japanese report).
    Also the illustrations in the Japanese report show the bomb both with and without the nose fuze in place. The photo in the US report shows bombs on the rack without nose fuzes.

    Rick Dunn

    Я так понял, что это была в общем-то не ракета, а бомба с ускорителем, которой японцы надеялись сбить тяжелые бомберы амов. Эффективность, ессесвенно, практически никакая. :rtfm:
     
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    мдя...
    в 2000 год я там не лазил.
    кстати, там админ обещал 5 апреля убить старые постинги.
     
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    кашмар