bob debrief

Discussion in 'Scenario / Tournament / Squad missions' started by tigrou, Nov 20, 2004.

  1. tigrou

    tigrou Well-Known Member

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    damn :( buff mission was a bit short.almost all ju 88 dead before primary tgt
     
  2. maestro

    maestro Well-Known Member

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    Thats CO's wrong decision make a buff raid w/o 109-s escort...
    or may be a special gm.. for fun for reds and golds? .. dont know.. :@drunk:
     
  3. sonar-

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    7 pilots started, 2 disco, 4 got damages or was down and only 1 bomb target#1

    Respect RAF - your attack was FAST and deadly. :super: Off course, almost all Spits was killed by 110s after attack, but 88s formation was destroyed.

    Hurrs over F1 are cannon fodder :turret: :turret: :turret: :p

    track: www.lavstudio.com/wb/sonar_adlers.zip (700k)
    110, 5 kills, RTB
     
  4. hardy

    hardy Well-Known Member

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    у меня было жесткое ограничение на использование 109 в этом сценари по территории.
    спасибо на добром слове.
     
  5. maestro

    maestro Well-Known Member

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    Извини,не хотел обидеть.Ценю твою работу.
    Ограничения так ограничения, что поделать..
     
  6. -frog-

    -frog- Well-Known Member

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    CO of the 79th Squadron.

    9 Pilots, 3 Flights, Hurricane I

    Started from f5 and proceeded to 6,4 sector for patroling duty, after reaching 19,5-20kft we started patrolling, radar operator sent us to 6,4,5 where we were attacked by a formation of higher flying 109's... (21kft+ some of them) we stood no chance, only one flight reached Ju87's only to be chased and killed by 109s which had all the atuts in their hands.

    Results:

    Flight1, leader: matti-
    matti-: killed, 1 kill
    mintau: bailed
    -eles-: killed

    Flight2, leader: -frog-
    -frog-: killed
    --vipe: killed, 1 kill
    --ms--: bailed, 1 kill

    Flight3, leader arttii
    arttii: ditched
    vojtas: killed
    afgan-: killed

    results: All Hurricanes were relentessly shot down due to German cover's alt and E advantage. Only one pilot was able to ditch his damaged plane. Remaining planes crashed. 6 pilots were lost (dead), 2 survived the bail.
     
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  7. Alex V. Inozemcev

    Alex V. Inozemcev FH Developer

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    Hi!
    I have only one question to RAF pilots.
    Is 7 mm guns become stronger now or not?
    Can RAF pilots fight agains LW pilots with this guns or
    it's impossible?
    I'm wating for answers, you may send it stright to my
    email - alex_1@udmnet.ru
     
  8. maestro

    maestro Well-Known Member

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    Then we start attack our alt was 6km.- 18000ft and we have a good speed.
     
  9. ihsrem

    ihsrem Well-Known Member

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    About 7mms:
    It was deadly enought.
    6 of 7 Ju88 were down by one pass!
    I've got only about 50x7mm and cant stay in formation anymore - both my ailerons were damaged.
     
  10. tigrou

    tigrou Well-Known Member

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    saw sonar trk

    ju 88 where not enouth closer...this made easy tgt for RAF. wtg to 110's! but in first engage,some fighters falled in RAF game: dog figting at fixed position while ju's still running .
     
  11. Pikkot

    Pikkot Well-Known Member

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    ehh..nevermind. 610th did well...after first atack 1 kia, 3 bailed, 4 rtb imho. ju88s were down...then I sit in tower and can't say anything more.
     
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  12. marc--

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    Hi all, :rtfm:

    Hallo Reds !!!! Not all Ju88 was destroyed before bombing f5!!!!!!!!!!!! :turret:

    I arraived F5 and me destroyed Ammo 2x fuel 2x Hgr´s and 1x 40mm ack!!!!!!!! Then i rtb, but 1 red hit my Ju88 very hard and i jumped over F 18 (gold Terr.) :zzz:

    Next time The ju88 close formation (min. d2) is better for def red´s.

    Cu

    Marc--
     
  13. Pikkot

    Pikkot Well-Known Member

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    imho d6 is minimal distance for ju88 formation so it will be illegal to fly ju88 so close.
     
  14. hilmar

    hilmar Well-Known Member

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    Well, bfs-110 made their job as well as it was possible against spits, but in the next time it would be good to have some informations before the mission, like: inicial heading, climb speed, who are the wingleaders etc.
    In general the flight was very funny, except for my f... joy. It stops to work well after the first 15 min, and a I`ve needed to use mouse above F5 (easy duck :( )!
    I`ll wait for the next.
     
  15. vojtas

    vojtas Well-Known Member

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    @Frog

    ja bailowalem nad Dover :) ale co to zmienia , jestem wqrwiony na te 109 , w przyszlym frejmie nie lece :rolleyes:
     
  16. --vipe

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    i think are enough only for ju88, for 109 imo are too weak
     
  17. hardy

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    Next time you'll read briefing and pilots roster before mission.
     
  18. Maletin

    Maletin Well-Known Member

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    registered ju87-pilots were:
    130 mosche
    131 jeanny
    132 waffen (-torre)
    133 -redw-
    134 ulfgar (replaced by mtprim)
    135 -glas-
    136 baraov (replaced by mogge-)
    137 alec-- (discoed. replaced by -putze)
    138 maleti

    as planed, we were south of our cover at gold territory.
    because no enemies were visible, we got in groups of two from south to our target.
    after i saw a dot (gold) i dived to our target to be fast.
    i missed my target, but one (not briefed) pilot followed me and killed our target.
    because i saw the mast up, i dropped 3 x 50kg on it.
    i got only economy hits, but no downmessage.
    we run south to gold terretory.
    we climbed again and had problems to find eachother.
    because dover reported, that a target was up, we went there.
    torre was without bombs, but he should stay with us (kind of cover).
    after the 10minutes to go message we dived to the target.
    i missed again, but on my track you see mogge- killing the mast.
     

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  19. -redw-

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  20. hilmar

    hilmar Well-Known Member

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    Well CO, I`ve read, but there weren't one or two informations that I think important.
    Next time, I`ll try (if possible) to suggest before the begining.
    Thxs.
    BB.