Mirror, mirror what is the best stick in the market?

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by tipiss, Jan 11, 2002.

  1. tipiss

    tipiss Well-Known Member

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    I know that this kind of subject has already been talked about, but I want to buy a new joystick, I have a logitech wingman extrem, it was a good stick but it's getting old and the handle is pretty loose, so aiming has become really problematic when your sight jumps off the target all the time.

    I'm looking for a stick that would be very firm on the hande (that it won't jumpe, that has not deadspace)

    Let me know which one would be the best and why?

    Thank you, and the one who gets me to buy the stick will get a beautiful picture of me with my bla bla lba... (see topic about the FH nationalities) <img src="graemlins/8.gif" border="0" alt="[U-u-u!]">

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  2. gahis

    gahis FH Sound Developer

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    Well, if you don't want force feed back, I would sujest the Logitech wingman Interceptor, Its cheap, digital, has 11 buttons, has throttle, has comfortable handle, its durable ((drop mine many times)) and has small deadband
     
  3. Zembla JG13

    Zembla JG13 FH Beta Tester

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    I broke my Logitech Wingman Extreme Digital into 2 pieces of .... (fill in as you prefer). So I needed a good new stick, after checking out all the sticks of the moment, I've came to the end conclusion that the best cost effective stick was the Thrustmaster Top-Gun Afterburner, that is exactly one year ago, right now there is an Afterburner II on the shelves as far as I know...

    It features a very pleasant grip, an 8 way hat, an independant throttle (4 buttons and a rudder control) on the stick itself there are 4 buttons and another rudder control (what rudder control that is used can be selected by switching a "lever" on the back, you could call it a switch button).

    8 buttons in total, 4 axis, long cable, comfortable grip, good lay out, steady, adjustable stifness (don't expect too much of it), throttle and stick can be brought together easily...

    greetz, Zembla

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  4. Platy

    Platy Well-Known Member

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    Well I love my Sidewinder Precision Pro 1.
    But I didn't quite like the fell of the Precision Pro 2... and from what I could read in the net the saitek products seem pretty good (here in portugal they dont sell saitek in the stores.. go figure).
    I've heard that the Sidewinder Force feedback was pretty good too, but I don't like the feedback part :p .

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  5. -Scorp-

    -Scorp- Well-Known Member

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    Ms SideWinder Force Feedback Pro 1

    About 9 buttons, cap, 3-axis stick(x,y and z- spining, good rudder) and a throttle thingie, a really convinent one.
    <img src="graemlins/joystick.gif" border="0" alt="[Joystick]">

    Feedback sucks and slows down most games. The only game that is fun to play with feedback is motocross madness. Fun and no slowdowns. :)

    Cool part is that you can turn automatic centering off. Yep, stick does not return to center. Almost no force at all is needed to move the stick. Quite unusual, but it rules after you get used to it. Great acurate control over aircraft and you can play with just one finger if you want. :)

    And the conclusion:
    Get Sidewinder Precicion. :)

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  6. Platy

    Platy Well-Known Member

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    Scorp its not very expensive.... it must be around 60 ? (Euros) or 50ish US dollars.
     
  7. -Scorp-

    -Scorp- Well-Known Member

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    O thx. 60 euros. I thing precision 2 is worth it.

    (I edited the prev post so it speaks about MY joy, before i wrote about precision)
     
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  9. illo

    illo FH Beta Tester

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    <img src="graemlins/director.gif" border="0" alt="[Director]"> CH FLIGHTSTICK PRO USB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I will get one as soon as i get the money for it.
    It's just so plain accurate. First sortie with normal CH Fs Pro i was astounded by my accuracy.
     
  10. -audi-

    -audi- Well-Known Member

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    I found my SideWinder Precision 2 Joystick a little hard to get used to , but once u get used to it u'll wonder how u ever manadged without :D
     
  11. Boroda

    Boroda FH Community Officer

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    M$ SWPP 1 here. Indestructible and cheap. Cheap and indestructible. Indes...

    Sorry, i'm drunk :)

    Happy old new year!
     
  12. tipiss

    tipiss Well-Known Member

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    And what about pedals, mine has a rotary handle, does it do a lot of difference having pedals?
     
  13. Kutya

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    I have Logitech Wingman Extreme Digital 3D too, Tipiss; I've disassembled it, put the potentiometer of twisty rudder to the right place (a drop of glue could help a lot), and now it's pretty okay for me. I think the people who made it didn't take care of the assemblage just patched it up. Anyways, a rudder pedal would be more realistic, I am sure.

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  14. Odisseo

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    It's now 5 years i use my Sidewinter Force Feetback I, it work as allways great 9 keys with double function key = 18 keys
    I tried Precision Pro and Precision Pro II, both really good.

    Illo what does it mean that CH? Confederathio Helvethia? :D :D :D :D :D
     
  15. HoHun

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    Hi Tipiss,

    &gt;And what about pedals, mine has a rotary handle, does it do a lot of difference having pedals?

    A world of difference :) Rudder pedals are de-coupled from the hand movements, which makes aiming (and flying) much easier and more precise.

    I have a complete set of CH equipment (F-16 Fighterstick, CH Throttle, CH Pro Pedals) which I'm very happy with.

    It's the old, pre-USB, analogue equipment though - not quite up to date, but at least I never have any Windows driver trouble since it requires no drivers at all :)

    Regards,

    Henning (HoHun)
     
  16. -nicae-

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    yup, same stick here. and same indestructability!

    tipiss.. if you ever buy a saitek x36, dont ever replace those ceramic resistors with optic gizzmos.. -denis sent his stick for that upgrade a year ago and i havent seen him in arena since!

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  17. Zembla JG13

    Zembla JG13 FH Beta Tester

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    Yeah, what became of denis?



    greetz, Zembla

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  18. -nicae-

    -nicae- Well-Known Member

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    its been some months i havent heard of him.. last time he sent an email, he said his joy was fixing still. but at that time, the joy was at the workshop for 6 months already lol

    i bet hes under another nickname, flying for another squad :p
     
  19. -ALW-

    -ALW- Well-Known Member

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    I have a Sidewinder Precision Pro that is 3 years old plus other spares I bought off eBay (http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/...nder+precision+pro+-gamepad+-force&srchdesc=y).
    I've repaired my stick many times from wear and tear. I put up a webpage on how to take it completely apart and repair anything step by step, but it's gone so I'm looking to get that up again. If you guys wanted, I could repair yours free as well if you want to send it to me :)
    This in my opinion is the best stick all around with the most functions and simple to use. I don't like the SWPP II because of it's lack of extra buttons and the feel is strange. The throttle is kinda odd too. :)

    I do have a CH Pro Stick, Rudder Pedals, and Throttle I purchased off eBay but never used. I could'nt get the hang of it after using the SWPP.
     
  20. Kutya

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    HERZ :turret: ALW <------- As it looks HERZ must be very, very dead by now. Am I right, ALW? ;)

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