New Misc.bin He177

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by gawong, Feb 20, 2001.

  1. gawong

    gawong Well-Known Member

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    Why arent we being informed in english?
     
  2. rgreat

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    bad organization [​IMG]

    aike dissapear before fully update server...
    so now IS new misc.bin on host
    & i have new 3d graph but its no allowed to use it on server!

    GRR!!!

    So you may download 3d
    ftp://download.sm.net.ua/incoming/wb_3d_data.exe
    but you only can use it offline for now...

    New cocpit for La-5Fn:
    ftp://download.sm.net.ua/incoming/La-5fn.exe


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  3. -doku-

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    WTG rgreat He-177 looks great!! [​IMG]

    About He-177 speed: I tried offline and on different altitudes I could get about 400km/h level with no load. RL top speed was about 472-490km/h.

    And about divespeeds: He-177 was planned to be a divebomber! [​IMG] (HitlerЄs another brilliant idea..) Well it sucked in that, but still it could do 400mph in dive (620km/h). Offline it started shaking at 500km/h and lost elev at 550km/h.

    Some links:
    http://www.kotfsc.com/aircraft/he-177.htm
    http://www.simviation.com/fsdcbainhe177.htm

    -doku-
     
  4. rgreat

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    WTG richi !

     
  5. -exec-

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    As for diving with Greif, I can say that it really intentionned as a dive bomber.
    If I'm not mistaken badly, Goering (WWI ace and Minister of Luftwaffe) himself watched after He-177 project. Heinkell were shocked with this idea, and converted Greif to conventional heavy bomber as soon as Goering died.
    BTW, RGreat - looks like your He-177A is very similar to Ju-88A. It climbs like Junkers, and moreover, has aerial dive brakes [​IMG].
    I love this device (especially for quick descending after the flight), but does really Greif-A3/R2 carried dive brakes?

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  6. gawong

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    Great Thants for the info dwnloading as we speak[​IMG]
     
  7. gawong

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    Ok got the defobj but la5 cock pit says file not found on server can you send the link again plzzzzzzzzzzzz. Thanks
     
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    There's another server where i can download the files ? this one is always busy [​IMG]
     
  10. -exec-

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    -doku->About He-177 speed: I tried offline and on different altitudes I could get about 400km/h level with no load.
    IAS, Indicated airspeed?
    -doku->RL top speed was about 472-490km/h.
    TAS, True airspeed?
    Check it again, please.
     
  11. gawong

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    Thanks for link 2minute dwnload good site[​IMG]
     
  12. -exec-

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    To whom it may concern

    I suggest Axis bomber pilots to check the Flight Data and Ordnance of He-177A-3/R2 compared to B-24D.

    As for turrets, I already sent a complete bug report to RGreat.

    My tests say this:
    *He-177 climbs only one minute faster up to 15000ft, but for 20000 ft lose the advantage.
    *He-177 level top speed is about 15% higher than Liberator's
    *Bomb load of 3000kg (6*500kg GPB and 12*250kg GPB) for short ranges is not included, even when He-177 is capable in carrying 4000kg(4*1000) and 6000kg(2*1000+2*2000)!
    *He-177 supposed to be fragile comparing to B-24D.
    *He-177 has aerial dive brakes.

    I may mistake, but I think that balancing the power (the only and principal issue of He-177's appearance at FH) RGreat must give Greif 6*500 and 12*250 egg-kits. This is my personal opinion.

    What do you think of it?

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  13. illo

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    Exec Hermann G?ring died in 1946 in N?rnburg.
    Just nitpicking.
     
  14. -exec-

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    illo>Exec Hermann Goering died in 1946 in Nuernburg. Just nitpicking.
    Wnat do you want from my buggy memory with a lot of bad bits? [​IMG]
    Propably Udet? Let me guess or look into books [​IMG]
     
  15. -nicae-

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    i agree exec.. what am i going to do with 2000kg bombs if targets are spread out? waste of weight!
     
  16. rgreat

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    Ok...will do so...

    P.S. I'm always glad to see creative feedback
     
  17. asgar

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    @rgreat ... i found that also about He177 (no i not really whant it[​IMG]
    "...and in some types even went into action as tank-busters carrying huge 50 or 75mm caliber"

    my data shows :
    Motor: DB 606
    Leistung: 2 x 2700 PS
    Vmax: 480 km/h
    Reichweite: 3700 km
    Gipfelhцhe: 8800 m

    and rgreat can u add in the next version of 3d one of those paint files pls

    http://www.unsere-luftwaffe.de/archiv/kampfflz/he177_b.gif

    guess the first He177 on this pic is one of those 50 or 75mm cannon He177
    (scary ...what would happend when u strafe acks and hangars in it [​IMG]?
     
  18. asgar

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    ah rgreat ...i forgot to ask the Me262 was mostly used as fighter bomber also ....
    guess then must be the other version add to the standard load also

    24 x R4M Rockets (optional)

    R4M (Rakete 4kg. Minenkopf) rockets were fired from wooden launch rails mounted underwing. With a velocity similar to the Mk 108 cannon, they could be aimed exactly the same as the cannon.

    "They could be let off 1,100 meters away from the target - and from this range continued until they represented a field of fire of over 30m x 14m. This meant that by releasing all his rockets at once against a close formation of bombers a pilot couldn't miss!"
    Johannes Steinhoff


    but i think the reds would be pissed then [​IMG]
    was just a thought
     
  19. -nicae-

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    cc..! imagine the recoil of the 75mm! [​IMG]
    creepy! [​IMG]

    rockets on 262 would be interesting!

    rgreat: plz inform us when he177 is available in arena!

    btw> thx alot for the he177! i didnt see it yet, but still... thxs all!!!!

    cya!
    nicae
     
  20. rgreat

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