Potential planes?

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by -evol-, Dec 27, 2004.

  1. ppedott_vibora

    ppedott_vibora Well-Known Member

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    Thats true, biles!
    As I ever say: Be nice and you will make good friends! :D
     
  2. beryl

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    Vibora, there should be 3rd option,like in AH - running to nearest friendly field, very usefull if it wouldn't be far
     
  3. laxtsc

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    Or to nearly enemy field and steal plane from hangar to escape :D lol
     
  4. Allsop

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    I do that in practice runs offline alot........take a plane and try to take off from an enemy field........Ive only done it in the a6m, i15, i16, and the spitfire...plus a few buffs "how do they avoid ack better than 109?" but its good fun :)
     
  5. sebbo

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    My wishlist:

    Fokker D-XXI (Dutchmen and Finnish folks would be VERRRRRY happy with this one!)
    Fokker G-I JachtKruiser
    Koolhoven Fk-52
    IAR-80/81
    Boulton Paul Defiant
    Henschel Hs123
    Henschel Hs129
    Boeing B-29
    Kawasaki Ki-45
    FW TA152H.... If it would any different from the FW190D-9, that is. I've heard stories about the TA152 being just another designation for the Dora-series
     
  6. Malino

    Malino Well-Known Member

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    Ta-152 had much better high alt performance than the standard 190.


    Mal
     
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    sebbo Well-Known Member

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    Thx Mal! That means my info was incorrect. I stand corrected!
     
  8. Malino

    Malino Well-Known Member

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    The Ta 152 series can be seen as further developments of the Fw 190D high altitude fighter with structural and aerodynamic enhancements and new power plants. The designation change from Fw to Ta was to honour Kurt Tank who had designed the extremely successful Fw 190 series.

    Two versions were derived from modified Fw 190D-9 airframes. These were the Ta 152B escort fighter and the Ta 152H high-altitude fighter with a pressurised cockpit. A third version, the Ta 152C, was a complete redesign. The Ta 152E-1 was a photo-reconnaisance aircraft and the E-2 a high altitude variant. The Ta 152S-1 was a proposed tandem two-seat trainer.

    Of these variants only the Ta 152H were delivered to the Luftwaffe

    Maximum speed:
    332 mph at sea level, 350 mph with MW50 boost
    465 mph at 29530 ft with MW50 boost
    472 mph at 41010 ft with GM1 boost


    Service ceiling: 48560 ft
    Climb rate: 3445 ft/min
    Normal range: 745 miles
     
  9. Allsop

    Allsop Well-Known Member

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    Uh, unless Im mistaken, which is entirely possible, wasnt the ta152, asside from other things, a 190 with much larger wing and tail surfaces? Larger wings and all that jazz.

    I dont now, becaise if the ta152 was derived of the dora, then Im especially clueless as I only really care for 190a series planes....
     
  10. -afi--

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    It had a totally different engine. Elongated nose and fuselage, shape of the wing was a little bit modified. Different armament, too.
     
  11. biles

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    It was to the fw190 like the Spiteful was to the Spitfire.
    In Aces High it is so gnarly, it is a perk plane.
     
  12. Sturmbock

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    FW190D-9
    Wingspan 10.5 m, length 10.2 m
    Engine: Junkers Jumo 213A-1, 1,776 hp.
    Armament: 2 X MG131, 2 X MG151E/20.

    TA152H
    Wingspan 14.5 m, length 10.8 m
    Engine: Junkers Jumo 213E-1, 1,776 hp.
    Armament: 1 X MK108, 2 X MG151E/20.

    The engine was pretty much the same, Afi. Just another mark of the JuMo 213, which enabled the fitting of an MK108 between the cylinder-heads and allowed GM-1 (Nitrous-oxide) injection. The A-1 only had water/methanol injection, the E-1 had both.

    Also, the nose wasn't changed (I think).... They elongated the rear fuselage and enlarged the rudder and stabilo to balance the new (redesigned and larger) wings.
     
  14. Red Ant

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    Awesome idea! I'm all for it! :cheers:
     
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    Oh and if golds get that Starwars hi alt Ta-152 then reds should get the P-51H to counter that. ;)
     
  16. airfax

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    The nose definetely was changed.

    Also, I say the engine is different because that version of the Jumo is worked to be incredibly fast at high altitudes even more than the one that was on the D-9. Check the performance, the difference is really made by that engine.
     
  18. airfax

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    IMO it's not that much different from Dora. Other thing is, who needs a stratosphere fighter (a buff hunter :rolleyes: ) in FHWB. There's never that many buffs waaaayyyyy up there...:D

    airfax :@drunk:
     
  19. gunitz

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    i liked the ideas of this theard, principaly the arado 234 this is a very good bomber and i will put a planes lits i wish:
    for gold:
    Hs 129
    ME-163 komet
    KI67 hyryu
    p1y1 Ginga
    G3m2
    N1K1 shinden a advanced jap fighter
    the kika jet plane
    arado 234
    he-113
    fw 190 torpedo bomber
    for reds:

    lancaster
    wellington
    gloster gladiator
    fayrey swordfisn
    gloster meteor to the golds can us the 262 more earlierh
     
  20. sebbo

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    Red Ant: Damned right, buddy!!!!!! Imagine a dogfight at 15 km up :D

    @ Afi: The 152 wasn't "faster" per se, it was "faster" at higher altitudes. The main difference between the D-9 and the 152 was the enormous increase in wing surface (which allowed it to climb higher). At lower altitudes the D-9 actually was a bit faster than the 152 due to the higher drag of the 152's wings and higher weight. And as I discribed, the engines used were pretty much interchangeable.
    In all, I think the differences between the FW190 A-8 and D-9 are a lot larger than the differences between the D-9 and the TA152H.