About killshooter

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by Hans Haupt, Jan 16, 2002.

  1. Hans Haupt

    Hans Haupt Well-Known Member

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    Originally posted by Odisseo:
    In those days i flew in kursk arena and it was great, for all ppl that got killed by friendly fires....lernt better what's a dogfight.

    Me and promet got more than 50 kills in one evening without be killed by any friend, why?

    First we never attack an enemy that has already a friend on 6, because is too dangerous, because is too easy get a con that got already engaged by a friend, as usually i se, you enagge a con, hi and fast, you drag him low and start turnfights and after 5 min of fight one "friend" imb and kill the con..

    (the right way [NEWER SAW IT BY SOMEONE IN FH] fly in your plane, you see low a friend engaged with a con, they are turnfighting and friend is on the 6 con, check!, he's in danger? no, i engage the con? no, i stay here hight and cover my friend? YES!)

    Second we never HO a con that has a frind on 6, you could be hitted by friend, you could hit the friend.

    Who engage a con already engaged and get shot down by the friend it's only for its guilt.
    Killshooter off implement a lot of tactics, and now players must check friend and not only enemy bullets.

    Think on!!
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    Well said, killshooter OFF will make people use their brains.

    ALW [​IMG] HERZ

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  2. HoHun

    HoHun FH Beta Tester

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    Hi Hans,

    >Well said, killshooter OFF will make people use their brains.

    "Killshooter off" will bring us traitors who kill people of their own colour on purpose.

    And that's not hypothetical - I was killed twice by rats of this sort in the Kursk scenario.

    I see your point about accidental friendly fire, but teamkillers make "killshooter off" impossible.

    Regards,

    Henning (HoHun)
     
  3. klinok

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    Well, it can be so:

    - person who kills any friendly pilot DOES NOT get this kill in statistics. Thus no reason for dweebs to kill any friendly.

    - person who killed by friendly COUNTED AS there he did not take off - he looses all his kills and assists he got in this sortie, but do not looses his streak.

    - and if killed one had fatal damages already before traitor attack - the enemy who made those damages GET his kill.

    Any opinions?
     
  4. -nicae-

    -nicae- Well-Known Member

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    i just think friendly fire should be off. no damage taken if you hit other either. its terrible when you shoot 30mm at con and friend pops in line of fire.
     
  5. zarzar

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    Hi,

    Anyone know if there are a program on
    WB to record your sorties??

    If there are one of these programs, we can use this films to advice for administrators about this pilots that shoot down frienly pilots. We can send on a e-mail this films to admins.

    Sorry for my bad english, i hope that you understand me
     
  6. HoHun

    HoHun FH Beta Tester

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    Hi Klinok,

    >Well, it can be so:

    No way. It's incredibly cheap to be a coward and kill a countryman. Even if there's absolutely no effect but seeing his plane go down in flames, some rats will do it just to see a plane go down in flames. I think friendly fire has to stay off to give all those rats no reason to come out of their holes.

    Regards,

    Henning (HoHun)
     
  7. Hans Haupt

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    This discution about killshooter ON or OFF doesnt make sense.
    I figured out that both ways isnt fair:
    Killshooter ON: If u hit a friend by mistake you die. NOT FAIR!

    Killshooter OFF: Dweebs will start killing teamates. NOT FAIR!

    The only way we can go on is: GET RID OF KILLSHOOTER. After checking many post i understood that its useless.

    COMPLETELY USELESS!!!!!!!

    Just disable killshooter or do something like that. Make it the way friendly fire will be useless against owm team.
    And for dweebs will be just a waste of ammo firing at friends....

    Give disapear pills to killshooter and "killshoot" its inventor.
     
  8. Red Ant

    Red Ant Well-Known Member

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    I agree, that having killshooter turned off is by far the better way. I reckon it's true that some sad loser might turn on his own side in a fit of frustration but seriously, how often have you seen that happen?
     
  9. illo

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  10. illo

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    well hans..i like accidents..if they really are accidents
     
  11. Hans Haupt

    Hans Haupt Well-Known Member

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    Me too, Illo. If accidents are "real" accidents.
     
  12. HoHun

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    Hi Red Ant,

    &gt;I reckon it's true that some sad loser might turn on his own side in a fit of frustration but seriously, how often have you seen that happen?

    Twice in two days, only counting the attacks on me personally.

    Regards,

    Henning (HoHun)
     
  13. HoHun

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    Hi Hans,

    &gt;Just disable killshooter or do something like that. Make it the way friendly fire will be useless against owm team.

    I don't really advocate "killshooter on", I just say friendly fire kills have to be impossible.

    If you think it's better to get rid of killshooter for that purpose, I could agree! :)

    Regards,

    Henning (HoHun)
     
  14. HoHun

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    Hi Illo,

    &gt;&gt;On Air Warrior, if you killed a friendly plane, it would be accepted as an accident. If it happened again within 24 hours, you went "Persona non Grata.

    &gt;This would be best thing in FH too.

    It only worked for Air Warrior because you had to pay for each account. The rats couldn't just come back a minute later with a fresh account.

    Regards,

    Henning (HoHun)
     
  15. -nicae-

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    i think there will be tens of more intentional accidents than real accidents.

    if there wasnt any of that, i would surely support killshooter being off.
     
  16. HoHun

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    Hi Nicae,

    &gt;i think there will be tens of more intentional accidents than real accidents.

    I have to agree with you!

    In fact, before Kursk, I thought accidents were more important, but experience taught me otherwise :-(

    Regards,

    Henning (HoHun)
     
  17. -nicae-

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    &gt;I have to agree with you!

    WOW! i thought it was personal! (j/k) :p

    btw&gt; plz note pages are up to about 30 posts now! thx archer! :)
     
  18. OVERDOSE

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    Killshooter OFF, friendly collisions ON... Only way to go...
    Aint gonna even try to explain y... either ya understand it already or ya have yer own uneducated opinion.
    Maybe more realistic collisions too... Loss of the part that actually is hit and not insta-death..
     
  19. -ALW-

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    LOLOL Sounds like a good idea bro :cool:

    HERZ [​IMG] ALW
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  20. -ALW-

    -ALW- Well-Known Member

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    Now THAT is a GREAT IDEA!! I was thinking that through the message, and finally here you say it lol.
    -alw--

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