After fly with red planes I've noticed that how amazing is easy get direct impact with RS82 82mm rockets. The planes that I've testes were: I153; I16 type29; LAGG3 type11; Mig3 type1; Yak-1; Il-2; Il2m Doing that tests I've noticed that how stable are the above planes, its very easy to aim and lauch. Flying 190F8 its almost impossible to aim to get a direct impact using R4Ms. Why Fw190xR4M 55mm are so instable and have so inacurate tragetory? Pls fix it.
R4M 55mm Air to ground rocket data : Fuselage Diameter: 55mm Length: 812mm Weight: 3.85 kg. Fuel Weight: 0.815kg Explosive Weight: .520kg Wing Span: 242mm Wing Area: N/A Performance: Velocity: 525 meters per second Range: 1500m Targeting: Roughly same ballistic qualities as the Mk 108 30mm cannon so the normal Revi gunsight could be used. Ballistic Information Round Types: High Explosive and Anti-tank ... anyway ...3.8 kg of explosive cannot do many damage ...
...the mongols in bikinis rub their hands with joy as they watch hordes of 190s hitting absolutely nothing with R4Ms...
damage is irrelivant- as it takes usually all 12-14 r4m rockets to take down any one target. PLUS their inaccurate....not good.
Lol... and that's a reliable sources yes? R4M was an AA rocket only... it was meant to be used against BUFFS and was only deployed in such role... <Z>
sure your not thinking of wgr21cm rockets? the ones that blow up at d18? The fw190f was a jabo fw190, heavy armor, and lots of bomb options- why is the i15 able to have heat seaking super missles and fw190 allowed to have almost no a2g supremecy?
Sorry Zembla, but I've found sources that say : R4M are A-G and A-A rockets A-A ones have fuse to they explode in air ... ( can this fuse be added on FHL ??? ... )
The fuse modle must be the wgr21cm rocket. They explode at about d18, you fire them at about d6-d8 at buffs- and bye bye buff.
developers can remove R4M from Fw 190F-8/Pb if you hate it. i promoted these 155 /Pb planes, i can ask to discard them. dispersion of RS-82 and RS-132 is 15m at 1000m.
R4M were mostly A2A. 262 could take 24 such rox to fire in one salvo into formation of bombers. Galland said they were wery effective
There were two warheads used for R4M: PB-3 for A2A use was smaller (4kg, 55mm warhead) PB-2 for A2G use was much larger (5,37kg, 2,1kg of them of high-explosive, 130mm in diameter) PB-2 had a armor penetration purpose, as it use cumulation-charge, being able to penetrate up to 180mm of steel plate. Only a limited number of PB-2 armed R4M's were used in WWII, mainly in those combat units: II/SG 1, II/SG 2, II, III/SG 3, I/SG 10 and SG 151 There was also a development "panzerblitz-3" warhead planned and produced, using even a bigger warhead Here's a "family photograph" of R4M warheads. From top: conventional R4M for A2A use (the one with opened stabilizers), middle: early version of PB-2 (with 25mm smaller than production PB-2 warhead), bottom: prototype of Panzerblitz-3 with more streamlined warhead design.
If we are going to skimp germany of a2g rockets lets atleast give them accurate loadouts of the shitty ones. 5./JG 26 Fw 190 D9 210972 2 x MG 131 + 2 x MG 151 + ETC 501 5./JG 26 Fw 190 D9 * 210954 2 x MG 151 + 26 rockets 5./JG 26 Fw 190 D9 * 400619 2 x MG 131 + 2 x MG 151 + ETC 501 + 26 rockets 5./JG 26 Fw 190 D9 * 500669 As above without rockets 5./JG 26 Fw 190 D9 * 210069 2 x MG 131 + 2 x MG 151 + ETC 501 + 26 rockets http://www.luftwaffe.no/SIG/1945/5MAI.html Eastern Front operations led to several new variants including the Fw 190F fighter-bomber which Tank designed with special emphasis on ground-attack operations. The airplane carried 360 kg (794 lb) of armor including sections of steel plate behind the pilot's head, on the lower engine cowling and the wheel-well doors. The F-8 model became the most important variant of the entire 'F series. Using kits supplied by the factory, front-line units could adapt these airplanes to carry various combinations of heavy cannons, bombs, rockets, and even torpedoes. http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/focke_190f.htm
the most ubber rocket in game is 190s 2 buff rockets. there more accurate then f6fs rockets and one rocket will close a hanger for as longe as a 500 pound bomb when on red it takes 3 6 inch hvr to even close a hanger. the 190 buff varent carries a stucka load out, 2 can close a field as esily as 2 f6f. it should be eassier since bombs are esayer to accuratly hit then rockets. its the same as asking why he177 6 500 pe8 8 500s? why does ju88 have better bomb loadous then pe2? why does b17 carry more then the larger b24? why donst f4u-4 carry 3 1000 and rockets it could be done if egg was put in fuel tank location. why do golds get ther 30mm 109 110 and 190 and we dont get the 20mm f6fs and f4us, or 40mm huricains? why do reds get vh1? why li2 carry 28 paras?(ive lokked into that at change thats its historic load out btw) why lis not get mortter on ground option ju54 has? why only 1 7mm gunner adminse gold biesed? were the p40N most numberous p40 built, admins gold biesed? why 262 so late and no he146? admins red biest? why doreds get russin rockets at tod start?{ seriosly...dont undestand this one the russin rockets are weak and golds have bombs on every early plane. reds have sbd or i16type 29 or f4f only to bomb with.} why reds have more mid fields on water map? why gold start with cv after every reset small med map? biesed? on same map why gold economy s f6?? heck why red econmy east f11? gonna coplain about golds s 6 lets bring up reads east 11. did i miss any of the i cant do shit but its the biesed administaters faults not mine complaites?
but 190's buff rockets must be fired very close to target or they blow up before they get there- no worries of this in any red plane. P47 carrys 3x500lb bomb and 10 rockets, no complaints there huh griff? Please show us any varient of f4u/f6f/p47/p51 that was armed with 20mm and used in combat in GREAT numbers in ww2. I dont think you can. While guns such as the mk103 were common place on german fighters. I wont even address the rest of the bullshit. When a red dies from d8 from 4x20mm mg151/20, then i want to hear some complaints, but untill that day, golds are constantly picked off from d8 by spraying reds....yet 4x30mm and a f4u can fly home.... germany had some good a2g weapons, and their fighters had better loadouts, we just will never seem them in FH till mig15 apears in 1942.
http://www.ww2guide.com/missiles.shtml " R4M The R4M was a 55 mm ( 2.17 in ) diameter unguided rocket with a 0.5 kg ( 1.1 lb ) warhead stabilized in flight by eight fins which snap open upon launch. Me 262 jet fighters could carry 24 R4M ( 12 under each wing in wooden racks. ) Fired in two salvos of 12, all 24 rockets could be launched in 0.3 seconds. Able to strike targets up to 1.5 km ( 4,900 ft ) away these rockets proved extremely effective against bombers. The R4M wasn't availible in quantities sufficient for widespread use. Following the war many airforces started using folding-fin rockets based on the R4M. The name is an abbreviation of Rakete "rocket", "4" = the 4 kg weight of each rocket and Minen Geschoss "thin walled shell" Diameter: 2.17 in (55mm) Weight: 8.8 lb (4 kg) Warhead: 1.1lb (0.5 kg) Max. Range: 4,900 ft (1500 m) Effective Range: 1,800 ft (550 m) " since Pe8 was introduced in game, there's no problem in gold side has available R4Ms to kill bombers. Its necessary only some adjustments in software to reduce dispersion and inacurate tragetory.
