Tank Attack

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by wnight, Aug 4, 2005.

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It is right or wrong? (Attack to the enemy field, with tank)

  1. Yes. (Why?)

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  2. No. (Why?)

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    32.3%
  1. wnight

    wnight New Member

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    Is cheat the attack to other field, with tank?

    - Tanks with 80mm.
    - No cockpit. :(
    but
    - The 2 sides (red and gold) has tank enabled :)
    - In the war, tanks had attacked enemy fields :D

    It is right or wrong?

    edit:
    oops!
    Yes => Right
    No => Wrong
    Sorry.
     
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  2. Snakeye

    Snakeye Well-Known Member

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    LOL :D
    Tanks' only purpose here is to attack enemy airfields ;)

    They're used to fire at cv's and planes but with little effects usually, they're here to attack fields and sometimes each other
     
  3. jfm

    jfm Well-Known Member

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    a long time ago was tank SQ on FH
     
  4. vasco

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    tank battles would be fun to watch imo :D
    would be nice to intercept enemy tank columns in a jabo too (defended by hmacks). more diverse targets for jabo pilots would be nice, i think
    it's boring to drive a tank to the battlefield (those things are damn slow). maybe there should be some spawn points for tanks a little closer to the "front line" (at some distance from the friendly airfield).
    or maybe server controlled tank columns should be enabled, like on TH.

    so i say "yes" for tank attacks, though i'll never do one :)
     
  5. fatale

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    nothing is bad on attacking flds with tanks and killing planes its like IRL imho, but bad is that kill with tank increase your fighter streak... :znaika:
     
  6. Allsop

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    As far as this whole "spawn points' thing. I think it would be cool and more than fair.

    When I first started playing WB I would practice in planes off line by taking off, and flying till almost out of fuel then landing....On these flights, I would offten find little airfields not listed on the map. A small dirt runway "you could land and barely take off" a tower, a couple small tents and buildings, and maybe an ack or two.

    I tink if our real maps in combat had these fields listed as "sub fields" it would be great for tank spawning and possibly emergency ditching of planes.
     
  7. tigrao

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    attack in tank is very realism!
    and all games (war) have tank, for defend or attack, is normal. :cheers:
     
  8. Naja

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    Agreed. Apart from what fatale mentioned, it sounds quite logical to me, and I´m sure it´d be a blast to see a tank formation, guarded by the hmacks.
     
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  9. -exec-

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    attack enemy field. it's normal. (since you spent an amount of time to reach it ;))
    don't attack own field. it's game spoiling leading to player banning.

    well, strictly speaking, it's 75mm T13E1 field cannon that was installed onto B-25H too. developers decided that it is enough to model tank, and there is no need to model F-34 or KwK40 L/43.

    it is using cockpit of UFO.
     
  10. yivan

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    no cockpit = cheat
     
  11. hugo baskervill

    hugo baskervill Well-Known Member

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    Tank attacks would be cool but...

    imho hmack with 25mm cannon is similar dangerous for tanks like any other enemy tank.

    Tanks have weak armor, 50kg bomb is enough to kill tank at small distance, imho IRL tanks need direct hit. Imho kill tank by bombs was quite difficult.

    Cocpit is good way.

    Tanks have strange guns, secondary weapon is 75mm gun and 7mm machine gun too.
     
  12. Allsop

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    If anything tanks should be made easier to kill- its damn near impossible to hit a tank with say- the ju87's 37mm "which should bust right into a tanks armor" and please show proof that a 50kg bomb should not destroy a tank?

    It is my humble opinion that an explosion such as that to a tank within near distance would atleast have a good probability to blow the treads of.

    Remember, this is ww2, not war In iraq- no depleted uranium "or somethign" armor.
     
  13. hugo baskervill

    hugo baskervill Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a tank specialist but imo only direct hit can destroy tank IRL, maybe bigger bombs which explodes near can turn over tank, or if tanks are first prototypes pzI. 20mm cannon in dewoitine can destroy tank in battle of France but it isn't ideal anti tank gun and there were first tank prototypes. Many pilots says that they must attack tank from the back with 37mm gun in Kursk battle.
     
  14. Allsop

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    That was after the russians started using angular plate armor which would deflect gunshots. But please, why must we take every fathom of a good russian idea and turn it into the god of all FH creations.

    37mm was a tank busting gun, all I ask is that the future DM will allow a hit to kill a tank, especially since tanks are so small you have to go low and slow on the target anyway.
     
  15. hugo baskervill

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    So now, bombs are better anti tank/hmack gun that 37mm, it isn't good and tanks are useless, they are too far from enemy fields, have no AA defense and bombs kill them too easy. In TA I got many 25mm bullets till my tank explodes but i don't know nothing about tank vs. hmack match in MA.
     
  16. Snakeye

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    2 or 3 37mm AP should be enough to stop a tank. Just remember to keep AP separated from HE - AP won't do much to a plane, just a big hole (a bit larger than .50cal and nothing more). Same with HE to a tank - won't do anything _at all_
    So now we have another question - separate ammo load for tank busting and shooting down planes?
    Historical p-39's load was 1xAP 1xHE, not counting tracers. But Ju-87 and 110 with bordkanone didn't take many HE's at all afaik... Not much use against planes
     
  17. -afi--

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    for once I agree with allsop.
     
  18. Allsop

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    Acording to Hans Rudel 1-2 good hits "in FH always 2 shots fired" to a tank would stop it dead. Being as in FH tanks are hard to tell what side would be the weak one to hit it should just be 1 hit kills tank of 37mm "come on, its not like every 109 110 or 190 has 37mm, infact, only the 110 has a 37mm gun and even then it isnt avail till late war." And this should make reds especially happy being as their il2 has 37mm with the highest rate of fire, highest ammo quantity, and im sure the best accuracy.
     
  19. hugo baskervill

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    imho many 20mm bullets or direct bomb/rox hit is enough, I'm not sure that 12mm machine gun in Tbolts and mustangs is enough to kill tank IRL but tiffies or hurries were good tankhunters.

    in early war reds have d520 and i16 with 20mm cannons, all gold planes have 20mm cannon, they spend more time and amno to kill tank but...
     
  20. Broz

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    you deserve death