Chute Killing

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  1. fatale

    fatale Well-Known Member

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    Should be the reverence to others here, but if somebody shoot to chutes, it is only his shame. Some people have different view of life...
    I am mannered by old Czech pilots (Phoecz, Dandys, Bukin, Duriel, PB) for which is chute kill (same like vulching landing plane etc) filth. But this is rule only for our czech community and not for all.

    I have read book 357th figter group- Aces from Yoxford by Merle Olmsted. In this book is wrote that approximately 1/2 pilots of group fired to bailed German pilots and 1/2 not. It was every man's matter. But combat report where USAAF's pilot coursed one bailed German pilot on the ground is really disgusting.
    These pilots had motto: If I don't kill him now he can kill me tommorow.
    But it was IRL and this is only game...
     
  2. Allsop

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    But does that statement not hold true in this game?

    If they bail successfully and maintain their streak, next time they engage you they might have an unsuspected advantage due to fuel selection.

    Is killing a chute any worse than red pilots in god awfull planes like the typhoon coming in and putting another 20x20mm into a plane with no wing and such?

    I've met God across his long walnut desk with his diplomas hanging on the wall behind him, and God asks me, "Why?" Why did I cause so much pain? Didn't I realize that each of us is a sacred, unique snowflake of special unique specialness? Can't I see how we're all manifestations of love? I look at God behind his desk, taking notes on a pad, but God's got this all wrong. We are not special. We are not crap or trash, either. We just are. We just are, and what happens just happens. And God says, "No, that's not right." Yeah. Well. Whatever. You can't teach God anything.
     
  3. -BISH-

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    I guess Gods thought for the days is :

    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
     
  4. spuint

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    and thats why they have (well except pb who dont actually use these rules;p) so much respect from most ppl in the arena
    and thats why fighting them or with them is always big fun
    i even remember once duriel and bukin were escorting me damaged to my field after they took my only friendly field in the area
    was a long way, and they didnt even want to ping me so i can bail and give them a kill...

    both of u, fatale and allsop, got a point
    its an every mans choice if he shoot chute or not
    however, since it is jsut a game and suppose to be fun, i see such behavior as a low and not really necessary act, as this really dont give u any real advantage in later gameplay (fuel rule aint real problem.. bigger is motivation after loosing streak, imo)
     
  5. Glas

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    This is a game. IRL the pilots who were killed in chutes couldnt get back up in the air to fight another day. We can. So what is the point of killing a person's chute in a game?
     
  6. Allsop

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    As one squadron leader once said glas-
    ::plane is shot up and enemy pilot bails, as fighter passes by leader cracks over radio:: "What are you waiting for! Get some target practice in!"
     
  7. graatz

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    what pisses me off is not in fact chute killing, but kill stealing. if i get shot down by an enemy i accept the fact that it is up to his taste if he will let me land on my chute or not, and when i shoot a guy and see him jump he's no longer threat to me and i leave him. but when i see a "friendly" losing 2km of alt only to get a kill on "my" guy without aft-fuselage and spinning like mad i feel like punching a retard in his face. preferably with a 20mm.
     
  8. Allsop

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    HELL YES GRAATZ! That is infact the biggest bullshit here in FH!

    Every looser that flys here is given the opertunity to steal kills simply by pumping 20x20mm more into him after he is defeated. I cant count how many times Ive blown a wing off, crippled, or put all my amunition into an enemy who IS FOR A FACT GOING TO CRASH AND GIVE ME A KILL when some looser fly boy comes in, steals the kill and says "I didnt see your name on it." It makes me wish friendly kills were possible.
     
  9. Broz

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    Vadim, that's another record in the shit you can write....
     
  10. spuint

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    yea, why they are not...

    well, if u can explain chutekilling as a part of history, heres a thing:
    in rl it was much more difficult to say when enemy was going down for 100%
    kill wasnt important as long enemy was going down
    and damn.. most of the kills were counted as teamkills
    statistics were only for the records, nobody cared as long they were able to rtb and fulfill their mission
    historicians count statistics

    so if u think bout chutekilling as a part of history and strategy, think about stolen kills as a teamplay...
     
  11. fatale

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    and most of the kills wasn't kills :mafia:
     
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    Huh?! "Most of the kills weren't kills"? What's next? Most strawberries aren't really strawberries, they're 1974 Dodge Chargers? :D
     
  13. fatale

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    read some american's combat reports... ;)

    every german plane with black smoke was called "destroyed" and often it was only full trottle or WEP and run in dive and no fall in reality, because germans had bad fuel after which was engines very smoking...


    but it's OT, sry :mafia:
     
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    Strawberries are in fact hippopotamus'es.
     
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    :) I know, Fatale.... I'm just being a jerk :)
     
  16. Broz

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    as usual


    :D
     
  17. RolandGarros

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    I just finished Gerald Johnson's autobiography.
    he writes of one (his 1st) he claimed "damaged" that was in flames, but went through a could layer & he didnt see the crash or a chute. Inaccurate claims have to start with a dishonest pilot (like Yeager & Marseilles), rather than be endemic to an airforce
     
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    Actually in LW no kill could be awarded unconfirmed. And even a word of fellow pilot who saw enemy plane going down was usually not enough (well without it you'd better be able to later show someone the wreck or else no chance for kill at all, too bad if you flew over water ;))
    Process of confirming a kill often took months or even years. Wreck of plane was preferred, going through inteligence data also helped. Claims about kills were signed by unit commander first and then went to HQ with witnesess reports and additional data and you had to wait. Some pilots didn't even survive long enough to have their first kill confirmed...
     
  19. Scarle

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    I shot chutes during my first week simply because alot of oranges did the same to me, so I just assumed it was an okay way to get a kill. Now I don't anymore simply because it's a waste of energy trying to dive on a chute, though if I know it's a certain orange that say, frequently likes to exploit warping, then a chute-kill is in order.
     
  20. Vadim Maksimenko

    Vadim Maksimenko Well-Known Member

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    Ummm... May be I am a good selector? :rolleyes: No! I had one "girlfriend", that was always angry at something or someone, no matter, but she wasn't my choice, I was hers. Oh my fucking God, that was really nasty. All others, even if we separate for some reason, are angels, and I love them all :)