BRING BACK DYNAMIC RANGE!

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by Fucketeer, Mar 28, 2006.

  1. Fucketeer

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    This article

    This effort to maximize volume tends to kill all of a recording's nuances. Radio stations jack up the signal further, and it just kills me. I've grown pretty tired of it. [​IMG]



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  2. Red Ant

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    Wow, I wasn't even aware of that problem. Seriously, how many people here knew of this without reading the article?
     
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    I did... I did... I did... not that I knew that... just felt listening to the newer songs.
     
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    My favorite music doesn't get radio play, and thus I don't listen to it, so it hasn't really been on the forefront of musical issues in my opinion.
     
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    Yeah, the article has a point.

    On the other hand though, if there's too much headroom for peaks (in comparissont to the average signal) it can be very uncomfortable to listen to certain records. I for one have a couple of tracks where there's all of a sudden a certain sort of peak, and it really kills the song.

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  6. Fucketeer

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    Yeah, if that peak isn't the point, it can be quite strange to the listener. However, we aren't talking about dynamics as special effects, but the overall volume. Those 70s and early 80s discs have a lots of punch, but now it's like eating too much candy.
     
  7. bizerk

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    You know when I make a recording it always plays back lower then I would like. Any suggestions? I have my guitar volume and tones, my interface's input volumes and mix levels, then thier is mysoftware mixer levels. but no matter how i try they always play back lower resulting in my having crank up the volume when listening to what i have just recorded.
    Anyhow I do rememberrecords from 60's and 70's and it clearly stated on the cover play at high/max volume. oh the good old days :)

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    That's okay if your input peaks at 0 dB. Anything more would end up in a bad sounding digital distortion (actually clipping), so keep the input levels high but not too high. Then just turn the software volume up accordingly. If you want it loud but without the distorted peaks, use the software's compressor with a low ratio (2:1 or 3:1).

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    Haha, now I understand why my older CDs sound 'low'! Nice read bro! ;)
     
  10. Uncles

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    Bastardi! I was listening to this album earlier, although it may not have anything at all to do with the topic. Officially hijacking the thread
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    Color Me Impressed

    That was a cool album, and also I could get chicks back then!!!


    Everybody at your party
    They don't look depressed
    Everybody dressin' funny
    Color me impressed

    Stayin' out late tonight
    Won't be gettin' any sleep
    Givin' out their word
    Cuz that's all that they won't keep

    Put the party on the mirror
    Oh shit, pass the bill to Chris
    Intoxicated lover ending our french kiss

    Can you stand me on my feet?

    etc.

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    Clips from their Hootenanny album

    1983 was better :)
     
  11. Fucketeer

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    I hear it this way, am I deaf?

    Put the monkey on the mirror
    Oh shit, pass the bill to Chris
    Intoxicated lover ended our french kiss
     
  12. RolandGarros

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    Strangely enough, digital cameras & video lose out to film in this same way, because film experiences reciprocity law failure & CCDs don't.
     
  13. Uncles

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    I think he said:

    Put the Magyar on the mirror...

    :znaika: :D
     
  14. bizerk

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    it is "put your mug thier on the mirror and pass the bill to chris." (me thinks referring to doing lines of some illigal substance perhaps.)

    How about this Blinded by the light, ????????? no one really knows the next line now do they??
     
  15. gandhi

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    ilegal substance not suck up from miror

    da dude on da other side of da glass blow it up at u

    its all 'bout perspecktiv, dude...... or at least da way i see it from hier
     
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    Ripped off like a douche, you know, the motor in the night
     
  17. reuben

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    Blinded by the light,
    revved up like a deuce,
    another runner in the night
     
  18. RolandGarros

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    isnt this a Kids in the Hall sketch?
     
  19. Uncles

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    :) To be honest, I don't today, and never did know the correct lyrics. Those years are blurred :)

    Every time I hear that song I remeber a party in 1984. A red-headed girl with lots of freckles was telling me to not drive home, and she said I should instead spend the night on a bed next to her. I slept there and nothing happened. That is, I passed out, most likely ;)

    She was a groupie type who had all kinds of amazing phone numbers of rock stars. I remember now that she called several numbers to impress me, just for fun, and woke up a famous singer in a Manhattan hotel who cursed her out :) "Why the H#$$ you calling me at 3 o'clock in the morning?!?" She called several, but I won't tell you unless you gve me $500.00 :)

    In short, I don't know what the correct lyrics are. But, I will say that "put the party on the mirror" would be a good lyric, artistically :)