Otto ME 410 changed ??

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by --lux-, Nov 8, 2004.

  1. -al---

    -al--- Well-Known Member

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    and how many of those killed i153's were not piloted by total idiots? :D




    (yeah I know, I know, any percent of 0 i153's killed is still 0 :D )
     
  2. spuint

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    hey actually.. that would be my next question
    :D
     
  3. looseleaf

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    Firstly I was speaking of the passed, yes.
    Secondly, not matter what we say, the admins will do what they want and when they want.

    If they exaggerate the planes, then exaggerate all of them.

    There is yet any relative balance of reality here.

    Well I think lately the moron to knight ratio is going in favor of the morons, unfortunately, but let's leave that aside.

    If you are "hopelessly fond" of WW2 aircraft , then why are you playing a game that distorts the flying models of those great aircrafts?

    I have relatives and fathers of friends and men I spoke with who flew some of those great aircraft in combat. I have great respect for those men and those machines. I have had the great fortune to sit in and fly in some of those great aircraft..... and it disturbs me to no end that these people are manipulating the flight models in the name of "making the game more "playable" and to whom? To only a special group ( insiders maybe?).

    Obviously there is no financial motive as this is free. So I can only assume it is for their own private agenda.

    I find myself what little spare time I have that I am enjoying this game less and less.
    Now it's time to invest in a new joystick and computer and video card.
    With all that money and so little time, I cannot just playing such a game as FH any longer.
    I have tried Aces High and I have spoken with several players. Some are just like you and me, fascinated with the WW2 planes, some are airline pilots , some are real ex-combat military pilots.
    The radio system works very well and there is unbelievable comraderee and great game play: Formation flying, synchronized attacks and defense.

    Yes, I'd like to play, but something more real and less biased...and I do not see that time coming soon...or soon enough.

    People are moving on and fewer people are going to care I'm afraid.
     
  4. looseleaf

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    I didn't call the Ki-27 over gunned.

    certain situation: low slow tight turns.

    Yes, I saw how zekes were better in the passed: on fire, one wing blown off and the zeke accelerated and climbed away level, no prop torque.

    Yes, one 37mm hit square in the wing right through the landing gear: no damage, hard turning and no over-g.

    Zeke riddled with 50 cal, four smoke trails, shoot off BOTH wings, zekes flies away, climbs and then lands.

    Just make the .50cal incindiary like they really were in Pacific and they can exaggerate them all they want.

    History states that the F6F shot down 5,000+ zekes. Ha ha ha..."history"....
     
  5. gandhi

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    history also state that mig-29 not score a a2a kill aginst f14 f15 or f16

    but mig-29 is stil probly better in many ways
     
  6. Red Ant

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    The latests MiG-29 and F-16 models are generally thought to be about even. And while comparing the MiG-29 to an F-16 makes sense, comparing MiG-29's to F-15's or even F-14's is a definite non-starter. COMPLETELY different planes.
     
  7. looseleaf

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    Maybe you are schitzophrenic....
     
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    I hope you read the quotation as your question was answered already.
     
  9. vasco

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    ok, now read it again
     
  10. FranzAugust

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    MiG25 scored kill vs F15 :D
     
  11. -al---

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    Don't you just love this kind of quoting?
     
  12. Red Ant

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    No it didn't. You're probably thinking of the F/A-18 Hornet that got shot down by an Iraki MiG-25 with an IR homing AA-6.
     
  13. spuint

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    i think all who play both sides are schizophrenic..
    i mean... once hes gold, once red...
    fuck
    that aint natural
     
  14. Gunther

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    Interesting only axis' players complaining all the time.....
    Should all allies planes be ok?

    I saw a few threaders here posting about allies fixes with good sources, except for Bullet and and a few others, did it very well.

    Try to help guy, not only whinning about those whom spend their time reading and collecting good datas trying to improve this decadent game :cheers:
     
  15. vasco

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    here's my comparative chart on Li2's historical and WB FH flight performance.
    i'll have it in my signature until it's fixed
     

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  16. Snakeye

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    I don't know where you got those charts from, mister, but they're waaaay off!!
    At 6,2 x B it's all mixed up, first thing it's off by 0,7 and the line is just drawn the wrong way - it's plain against what all the sources state! Li2 was much better in that part of the envelope, for the most part at least. Period.
     
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  17. airfax

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    No, but you did mention that I-153 is poorly gunned and it has twice the firepower compared to Ki-27. And the guns in 153 are good.

    CRAPPOLA! (would vasco say...)

    I'll just say bullshit. Only chance for that is zeke has 5% fuel while the 153 has 100%. And that means that the zeke pilot has been flying around for about six hours (zeke is great in fuel economy :D ). So he/she/it deserves the kill then.

    And this was my bad, sorry. I just ment the turning. (or FM if you will)
    You should try spit sometimes. Or tempest. Or typhoon.
    One shot from those hispanos closes small field. Or if well aimed a med field or two small fields. All you need is a decent ricochet...

    And while they're at it should they make the gun dispersion historically accurate too... (there were a reason to have 8x50's guns in plane)

    (SPRAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SPRAYING SOME MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPRAY!! SPRAY!! HIT!! SPRAY !!)

    I know, Spuint doesn't have a evil twin. But his sister is way wicked...
    Or what was your point?
    :D
     
  18. Red Ant

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    LOL :D

    Hey, I see the two graphs meet at several points, so at least FH isn't totally off!
     
  19. big-jo

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    LOOOOL vasco
     
  20. reuben

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    Nah. It doesn't 'do' it for me :D