Ok so for you will be ok If Serb come in to your country and try to teach you ( wiht force ) few things, eg. that certain parts of your home land is not any more your property. You wouldn't yell at him?
Well if the circumstances were reversed and we decided that we should begin ethnic cleansing, genocidal practices, and start concentrate camps in a few of the states, then I could understand why a large collection of countries would come together to stop my actions. You want to single out the US, but it was the UN and NATO (two different organizations) who had to stop the war by force; the US was only a part of it. Who created the situation which required the multi-national use of force to stop ethnic cleansing? The person directly responsible for the situation is now gone, now new choices are presented.
Have I ever mentioned name of your country in all my posts, ( excluding this one, sice the cards are open at the table ) ( I just simply caled it "a country" as any other )? And my intention was not to try to single out US... hm... do you feel that it should be mentioned... ? Remember just Japan Nagasaki, Hiroshimba, Elora Gay, big mushroom, Hundreds of thousands civilians killed instantly and many more even today dying with cancers because of that? ....................... "Vietnam" - What a hell you were doing down there? ......................... Ok I will skip all the way through time and places and end the story with again bombing civilians in bosnia under serbian control, civilians in Belgrade. Then all those inocent-ones in Iraq. Then Abu Gharib concetracion camp, and many others that we don't know. You see when something like that is hapening you call it "Inevitable Casualties of the war". Should we call it Genocide, crime against humanity, Ethnic clinsing.... ? IMHO Well, by reading many posts in this International forum it looks like that US is not the most popular country all around globe ( I am not going to go in to a small guts ) - but have you ever asked your slef why? How safe will US citizen feel to fly anywhere out of states (excluding Canada and Mexico) with US passport? Cmmon everyone knows that blowing former Yu from the inside ( what was very easy to do after Tito died, with all those nacionalists ) was just next in the row former socialist country to be destroyed, act from the text book as remains of cold war era "to do" task. Do you know how many Serbs were kicked out from their homes or killed in Croatia and Bosnia? Obviously no. Ethnic clinsing? In a cvil war as that you have regular soldiers and hawks "bad ones" on all sides ( remember Abu Gharib ). The problem is that media was presenting one side as bad one all the time ignoring the other one all the time - acoriding to currently desired political situation at the globe. I still do have many good friends in States that I highly respect and always enjoy to talk to since that no mather what was in the past, now in this very moment we are at the same page or side.
Horrible for sure, but probably no worse than the alternative (Allied landings in Japan, projected casualties on both sides well in excess of 1,000,000). How does defending the South from invasion by the North sound to you? Of course Serbia's actions had nothing to do with that. And yeah, I bet NATO specifically targeted civilians because we all know how well that chimes with the media. No way could it have been collateral damage. I suppose the Allies are a bunch of war criminals for shelling the coast of Normandy and killing countless civilians prior to the invasion. How many of those died due to action by Coalition forces and how many were blown up by "freedom fighters"? "Concentration camps" .... ROFL. Wrong as the happenings in Abu Grahib were, it was certainly in no way comparable to a concentration camp. What a ridiculous analogy. Or maybe we should call it jebac talking out of his ass again.
Just for the record, I believe that America has committed many horrible wrongs in history; why don't you list some of the real ones instead of making up all this bullshit? Such as ousting democratically elected governments in South America and replacing them with anti-communist dictatorships.
Well, you can list those ones. Why do WE have to do all the work? I was onto the Middle East. the guy above shifted to Bosnia for some reason. besides, he clearly doesnt know much about it - confusing jihadists with Hizbollah with Hamas. ??? Still he manages to have a strong opinion what should be done to them. typical
Lol, indeed you are the teacher of all men across the world. From all your responses here one thing became clear - that we have met here one exemplary individual of those 52% of americans, that believe: - the world should obey the American world order, if not there is something wrong with them and they should be shown the forest - of course, if they are so stupid to not like the american order - they are idiots who deserve to be deleted - in general deleting peoples and cultures is quite okey, other than economic factors they are quite worthless "its no big deal we armed jihad army, lebanon has been fucking itself on its own accord anyway. a few more hundred people will go to war, bomb some buses, maybe tear the army apart and start a civil war. its just some old ak-47s and m-113s nothing more" Could a civilised person even think in such a way? So, yeah, you only confirmed for me the figures of that study. Unfortunately, the overwhelming side have always been the barbarians. Well, there are plenty of barbarians also among the arabs, finally somebody on your level to put a fight to you. I wish them good luck. But it pisses me off that the civilisation of Middle East suffers from this most. And that europeans are also drawn into this. Out of some traditional 'white' vs 'lower cultures' solidarity they cant make themselves take the other side on any issue between USA and a third party. I am talking about the political elites not the common people. The current Kosovo crisis is a good example of this.
many people have done well in this thread they have read their posts and made changes before hitting the "submit" button they made sure the argument makes sense so they can see what it is they are trying to say they have even gone back to edit something that was wrong but in the end it only means they have convinced themselves of their own argument and that now the forum should see how that was done what a big surprise then that many people disagree
It would already be refreshing if you could do some of the work rather than just bring up the usual America-is-the-root-of-all-evil nonsense.
Jesus! ANY nation fighting a war against the Empire Of Japan as it was would have dropped nukes on a couple their cities. Do you have ANY IDEA of the struggle that would have taken place if the United Nations, most of them, by the way, arguably, democratic societies, had to force an invasion of the home islands? Imagine the fuckin pictures that would be in the newspapers, you think Leningrad was bad? Imagine some horror like the siege at leningrad 1000 times, over and over and over and over. Or, say, Warsaw Ghetto 5000 times. Imagine the voter's revulsion? Children crouching in holes, dug into the road, each one with a sticky bomb. Imagine the voter revulsion at the polls. How in the hell do you war like that? How can anyone bear it? Being immersed in offal? Soviets and Chinese bore the brunt of casualties BY FAR in ww, neither of those peoples were abused the way they were by armies from democratic countries. The Untied Nations, led and more or less staffed by the USA fed the Japanese during a terrible winter, the winter of 45. I don't believe Japanese People will ever forget that. Recall how conquered peoples were treated by the Empire's armies..... I lost my point here. wait. If Kuo Min Tang or Soviet Union or Mao's Chinese had gotten a nuclear bomb, what do you suppose would have happenned? No kidding. The USA went to the brink of civil war during that time. And they blasted the shit out of Paradise. I think USA looked the very worst it has ever looked, back then. I don't think their games these days compare. Mind you, if they keep getting away with it, never know eh? Maybe we get that old Armegeddon them religious freaks like to have??? England? Scotland? Ireland? Australia? New Zealand? Norway? Italy? Spain? Couldn't a Yank feel secure in those lands? And many more lands besides... No, really... Good thread.
following gandhi's advice i was planing to stop writing here, but since rudeboy has come in..., he at least reads other's posts sometimes, not simply looking for hooks to attack them also i couldnt resist that: and it is finally time for you to learn to read maybe? Interestingly, the japanese desperately wanted to sign peace for a couple of months before. They knew very well where were things going. The Anglo-Saxon story is always about the irrational miscreant, who, drunk in his evilness cant see his own inability to fight on. Sometimes it is true, sometimes the West conveniently makes it true. The only question of life and death for the Japanese was not to loose their possessions, or even have their homeland occupied - it was the very real fear that the Americans might declare a republic! (Question important not for the people, but for those in the ruling and religious castes.) They were ready to give up anything and sign armistice with only one condition - guarantees that the Emperor's position of Deity wont be desecrated by the Americans. The Americans refused to talk. Roosevelt was quite worried the Japanese attempts for contact might become known. The Americans needed just a bit more time the war for just a bit longer... To finish up the bombs. They needed to use their best weapon for a show of force. The same type of show like on Dresden for example. Deleting one city a few kilometres before the Red Army enters. How many Allied lives and how many votes did that save? They were thinking ahead of time. This war was over - the new enemies were already clear and in the race. Theoretically possessing a nuclear weapon is not the same, when nobody yet has seen what is its power. Deleting two cities off the Earth is another matter however. It makes your words heavier on the talks about dividing Europe and the World. Conspiracy theory? You can find alot about it on the net.
So damn right on this one. That's why your "democratic and peaceful wonderland" respects (and supports) some dictatorships rich in oil, like the Arabian one. You guys don't give a shit for oil nowadays, right? So, show me getting the fuck out of Iraq! We are rich in potable water and we have a large natural genetic bank. Please invade us and leave they alone! Sorry, my mistake. I meant "treat", not "threat". True, but you guys seem hating different cultures from yours much more than everybody else in the entire world. Haha! You REALLY make me laugh man...Putin loves west so much that he has promissed building up that missile defense system in that polish crisis, right? Ahmadinejad is clever, dude. He's just trying to gain some time until he gets the bomb. You'd do the same thing if you were on his skin...and, I'll say again: HE is on the control, not that UN fat inspector. I don't have any means to verify these informations. Maybe DZIVDZAN would be more able to confirm us that. I've said in the near future. Not today or tomorrow. An american researcher called Jeffrey Nyquist had wrote some articles and a book entitled "Origins of The Fourth World War" about this subject. I'd recommend finding out by yourself. I'm just disrespectful with who deserves that. Despite of that, it's not my fault that the majority of racists are white pricks (maybe this is due to historic reasons). Just check foruns, comments at youtube, etc and you'll see what i'm talking about. And, btw, I'd be considered afro-descendant if I went to US. One more reason to you guys hating me... So what? It's her problem... Maybe I should give her my address so she could shoot me in the face and save the day...? The true is quite inconvenient, ain't it? Does reality ring a bell? Cut this fucking hypocrisy for a second.
He was the only prototype cbfs. Unfortunantly, not long after this picture was drawn, his cape got stuck in the prop... and... well yeah... the contract was cancelled.
LOL The underlying theme of this thread has been that of racism and prejudice; Ref: the number of times it has been mentioned and alluded to.
That picture has to be wrong, look at all of the holes in his wing. This is FH, 1x7mm should have torn that wing off.
In short you are one of those that talk alot but say a very litle ( due to general lack of arguments ), the way how nowadays diplomats politicians doing their multi-coating - painting job on general population.
I'm sick of Uncle Sam and his way and how it works. Lets see how NWO ( New World Order ) works: International law say that no one can change borders of eny Independant Country ( so Croatia and BiH got borders they had as republicks of former Yugoslavia), but Uncle Sam now say Serbia don't have that right and 15% of Serbian teritory will be a New Albanian's State ( wow One nation will have two states ). After that Albanians will ask independance in Macedonia, Montenegro and Greec and then they will got GREAT ALBANIA, but Serbs couldn't creata Great Serbia cos Uncle Sam said that they can't. Buy NWO who is terrorist, people like IRA, ETA, Kurdistan Party, ... but not UCK. Why? cos UCK fight against Serbs and they are cooperative with Uncle Sam and NATO, if UCK would exist in USA and do things they did in Serbia I'm sure Unckle Sam would say that they are terrorists. When Turks goverment start military actions in Iraq against Kurdinstan Party they say it is fight against terrorisam, but when Serbs start military actions Against UCK it a crime. Any other nations need resolution of UN to start military actions against any independant country, but Unckle Sam don't need UN resolution to invade Serbia and took 15% of Serbian's territory, Uncle Sam said it is action against Serbian terror but we know it is act of agression by International Law. By International Law Unckle Sam should pay war dmg to Serbia but he didn't. Unckle Sam drop uranium shels and claster bombs on civilians and destroy a lot of buildings in Kosovo and Serbia and he send an aid of 16.5 milions $ to Albanians LOL an AID. "We will destroy your's homes, factories, economys and we will send you an AID". You destroy it You have to pay it and we don't call it an AID. Major reason for military action against Serbia was incidenti in wilage Rachak when Richard Holbruk said that Serbian (regular) forces killed (executed)civilians and show those civilians on TV. But no one know that independant group of forensic pathologist from some Skandinavian country said that those civilians wern't civilians cos their wounds aren't execution wounds, they have gunpowder particles on their hands ( mean that they were used wepons ) and holes on their clothing don't corespond to the holes on their bodies. But Uncle Sam need reason to invade Serbai!! It is funn it looks like a reason for attack Serbs i Bosnia. All clames that Serbs fire mortrats on civilians buying food on MARKALE and UN expert after a few monts show that MORTRATS COME FROM MUSLIM SIDE (LOOOOOOOOOOL) but it was to late to stop bombing Serb's forces, or Iraq scenario ("We just need reson in which will be belived around the World, and after invasion it is to late to say we made mistake") You don't need to belive on it, but it is THE WAY OF NWO
