Sean Penn's interview with Raul Castro

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  1. grobar

    grobar Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, you are right. Its because its in my eyes every day. I happen to vent my irritation on this forum.
    When I leave UK I will relax.
     
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    lol, gro. I thought you had a porsche once....

    :D
     
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    Hmm, interesting...
    here in Nottingham my relations with students from China have been about 1000 times more immediate and deep than with the English; in fact, almost on a par with the Polish and Slovak (and about 10 times more than with the French and Spanish).

    I dont know any Indians, but I have become a part almost of one large family from Kandy, Sri Lanka. The 80-year old granma is refering to me as "my boy" and I call her "Mom". :) She is brilliant by the way!


    So, yeah


    no thinking believers?
    thats the problem of USA secularism.
     
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    he-he, a seeking soul and intellect does not exclude having a bit luxury from time to time! :)

    a 70's porsche is not exactly luxurious but i got three now :D
     
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    No, the problem is.. and not just in the USA but in many more places is that there are too many people who believe they are thinkers and those who confuse the two.
    There is this "madness" about "intelligent design" going around.

    What you are experiencing with those various cultures are not necessarily because of the peoples' religious beliefs or lack thereof.
    Some people just don't make friends easily. Could be a variety of reasons.

    I have found it easy to make friends of different cultures and religions in the university environment.
    Of course the fact that one is there usually means the persons is going to be open to new ideas and experiences.
     
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    owning 3 70s ear Porsches sounds more like a masochistic fetish rather than an sports car enthusiast:eek:

    Two must be parts cars, no?

    Any rust? :D
     
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    It's funny, but here at my uni I sometimes feel closer to non-Americans also, but mostly because we can talk about things most Americans don't know about. Foreign history, etc.

    But there are many things that my foreign friends don't understand about me, and what "being American" is :) It's normal, I suppose.

    I don't find many "believers" in my work in the USA, but I find strong believers in other countries that I visit. So many times I am surprised. And being surprised is not good for business :)
     
  8. grobar

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    you are right there

    and ID shows the total mental bankruptcy of modern protestantism.

    worst of all is, lately USA is trying to export that abroad (like everything else). There is big organisations in the UK already, most of them speak with american accents.
    but they get their slots of 'controversy' in the news and the newspapers.

    yeah, all the chinese gals i know are so deep in buddhism they can levitate! :D
    makes for great sex!
     
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    But you're not "living from the soil" either, now do you?
    (I can help you with your materialistic payload and take one of those to keep... :D )

    :D
     
  10. Zembla JG13

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    Atheist means not believing in a deity, as Red Ant already said. Not being a practicing Christian means not going to church, not praying before dinner, but not necessarily not believing.

    So, to be clear, I said not practicing your religion doesn't automatically make you an atheist.

    So you're saying that in the West there is an abundance of religions because people can get them for free with their coffee? Or that there is a severe lack thereof? Because from what you're saying here it seems like you think we believe that someone who doesn't go to church is not a Christian. Which is probably the biggest bullshit I've heard in a long time. Only in America it may be a more regular habit of going to church every Sunday, but over here, it's the vast minority.

    What's this "rest of the world" you're speaking of? Did you suddenly move to another part of the globe where there's radical different interpretations of society or something? You hunting for your dinner with a bow and arrow nowadays? Between London and Paris the biggest differences will be that in London they drive on the left, and that in Paris the underground isn't called an underground. People always say "oh, but things don't work like that over here". Everytime I go on a holiday I hear that shit. And everytime it's only a half truth. Social and religious diffrences aren't so tough to figure out. And fuck, I personally will be the last to think less of someone for being different in either terrain, eventhough I'm a huge snob. It's you that is cursing at the West, not the West cursing at you. It's your crusade, nobody forces you to like the West, or to live like the West. But you're constantly spitting on it's culture. I respect you don't like it, but I really wonder why you take such offense if you're a) part of it, and b) take a moral highground of the West lacking any depth, and the West lacking any beliefs. Maybe the West is the place where SO many different cultures have gathered, that the differences have either turned it into one color, much in the same way that an umbrella with a zillion colors spinning very fast will apear white... or maybe it's because religion in such a diverse world is a private matter.



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    | Check up on my sig, baby :)
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    maybe i have a personal vendetta going on? :dark:
     
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    it needs not curse me, it is more like, ...condescending...

    mm those people there living in the forests [or drab communist cities]
    eating gulash you know, and dancing kazatchok. they like to watch 2-hour black-n-white documentaries where the guy dies at the end.





    this thing with the many different cultures is an illusion by the way. THEY are not your culture. eating turk pizza is not culture, ask McLoud

    On the other hand I know one armenian professor, who is a welcome customer in every arab joint
    He can recite miles of arab classics to an owner in tears.
    How much arab poetry or turk absurd stories did you take along with your kebab?



    ...
    but they've got alot better now -
    they got advertising!
    and opened even proper malls!

    yeah, Grogondonia is becoming alot sexier. book your cheap flight now!
     
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  13. Zembla JG13

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    I don't think you know what multicultural means then. A multicultural society isn't one where every member of that society knows / is part of every subculture. It wouldn't be multicultural if everyone had the same culture.

    I really don't get what you're so disgusted with? That people eat kebabs over here? Good for the Turks (or which exact culture it came from)! I don't mind Belgian beers being exported either.

    That's capitalisation. And I get how you believe that - being almost the opposite of communism / socialism - is a culture in its own, but it's not. It's an economical thought, not a cultural thought. In essence capitalism is not about culture. It's about money. And sure, that can influence a culture. But it's the people in the cultures, that let their floors be pulled clean from beneath them quite often.

    Even then, a lot of people are making a profit from taking the niche road, and holding up the house. To continue along the "beery" road, there's an immense increase in all different sorts of microbrews, whereas in essence, that's opposite of what people would've expected 10 maybe 20 years ago I'd imagine.

    Ah well, I can only give my opinion. Some of the things you say are 100% right, the others just seem prejudiced stuff that I can't even imagine how you got it. Then again, that's probably what you think I think of different cultures, To be honest though, it's not. "Laisse faire laisse passer". I don't care if someone's different.

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