Finnish Hurricane?

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Gold Hurricane Mk.IA?

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  1. -exec-

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    currently Gold Hurricane Mk.IA represents Finnish Air Force.

    do we need Hurricane Mk.I residing or removed from Gold side?
     
  2. demian

    demian Well-Known Member

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    Where will this hurri go when you split colors Exec?
     
  3. mumble

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    Keep it. It gives me something in early war to shoot at other than the horde of a6m and the occasional boom and zoomer 109 operator.
     
  4. Ziomek

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    no need

    golds never had it , i don't see point of having it now
     
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    Look at how many different fighters red has in early war vs. gold. All gold ever seems to have is A6M2 or Bf-109E-4. Ki-27 now actually has a gun, so a few of them are around. Red has more variety in the early war. I-153, I-16 series, F4F, Spitfire I/II, Hurricane I, and whatever I left out. The point is, after flying a couple of tours as a gold under a different name, I got bored of the early war quickly with only A6M and 109 to fly.
    Yes, I could have flown the Super 110, but it never really has suited my style unless I'm jeep killing. Bf-110 series always seemed the way to go for killing jeeps. That or Ju-87.
     
  6. joseh-

    joseh- Well-Known Member

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    This is the reason why golds must have the Hurri Mk.I

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    As mumble explained, IT IS EXTREMELY BORING after 2 or 3 TODs fly only A6Ms and 109s at early war. I always came to the game after 1942, but with Hurri now, I'm thinking to start a bit early
     
  7. looseleaf

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    http://www.sci.fi/~fta/hu-fin-1.htm


    List of Aircraft owned by Finnish air force:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aircraft_of_Finland#Fighters


    ( please note 12 Hurricanes, 35 Fiat G.50 )

    Finnish Hurricanes artwork:

    http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?6962-Hawker-Hurricanes


    IMHO: According to the little I read, Finland was mostly aligned with Germany during WW2 :

    ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Finland_during_World_War_II)

    Only in late war was Finland aligned with Russia.

    Soooo...... due to the small number of planes Finland had:

    IF they have access to a Hurricane in early war as "golds",

    THEN they should have access to 109 in late war as "reds" !


    http://worldatwar.net/chandelle/v3/v3n2/revw-finn.html
     
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    that's a question what to model for Italy: G.50 (+Finland) or MC.200 (+better perf)

    :D
    who needs 109? soviets don't. tommies/yankies?
     
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    btw, another question is whether to remove hurricane after g.50 appears.
    in general folks sounds to be correct: three fighters could be better than 109/a6m
    but for the same reason (f4f-3, i-16, i-15) golds are unlikely to have more than three fighters ;)

    p.s.d.520 is cancelled from this ratio
     
  10. looseleaf

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    Gold Hur might be easier to create. However I feel the Fiat G.50 would be historically more accurate for early war anyway.


    other than 12 planes to 35 in reality, I think the G.50 would be better than the early Hurricanes with engines cutting out pulling neg g's and those ineffective 303s rattling around....
     
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    the choice is "MC.200" or "G.50"
     
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    "MC.200"
     
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    I'd say no. Those hurricanes were mostly gained by repairing the downed ones. As was most of the LaGG's,I-16's and 153's. I've seen a pic of russian 190-D's, so if one goes with hurri this way, one should give 190 to reds sometime in the late war.

    BW-239 and me-109G6 were the planes that ment most to finns at war.
     
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    G-50 is cool. I fly it in X-Plane all the time. I love it. Handles like a dream. Fuck. If I was taking my blood pressure drugs I would start playing again... but I am not and I won't [I don't like seeing monsters from almost anything those goddam doctors tell me to eat [ask me, they don't tell me anymore, they know they can be fired].
     
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    G-50 in game - will be like Ki-43, but some worse. Just compare G-50 and Ki-43
    data.

    Like D520 vs Yak-1

    But... why not? :)
     
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    There are other planes used by the Axis at the beginning of the war that are better and more used as
    IAR80, G50, C200
     
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    I think that there are no more interesting planes for add except some buffs- Wellington, Lancaster, Do217 and Arado 234 (when reds have their Meteors now, it will be ok for game balance).

    Then we can talk about P-61 Black Widow, but...why? We have not nights here so it will be something like Me-410 or Ki-45- nobody will fly it except first 2-3 days after new FHL release.
    Ta-152? Nobody fly in MA obove 4km. Re.2000? C.200? G.50? It is like fas wrote- same or worse planes than we have, good for 1-2 men....maybe.

    More interesting are new versions of current planes- for example P47M and mainly "N" and P-40N. In ww2 flew a lot of these great types and we have not it.

    But i vote for leaving adding new planes for now and work on new maps and other things which are more interesting for gameplay.
     
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    whuut?! Arado 234 must balance which of red?

    flamy 1945... will require ta 152 not Heinrich, but Caesar!
    and bf 109 k-14 and even worse luft'46

    these things are not related
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