OT: 911 thread.

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  1. Mcloud

    Mcloud Well-Known Member

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    Look Ethel, the media lied about Sept. 11th. Goddam owl worshippers, wait till the guys at the legion find out about this. Son of a bitch....

    On the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, many commemorations were being held across the nation. While an official ceremony to show support for the war in Afghanistan was taking place on the deck of the retired USS Midway in San Diego, a group of 9/11 activists was set up across the way with an impressive 40 foot long display of photos and information on what really happened that fateful day.

    Air Force Lt. Col. David Gapp (ret.) educates passersby about 9/11 Truth in the same uniform he wore in the latest ad from the Remember Building 7 campaign.
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    This is no ordinary band of street activists. San Diegans for 9/11 Truth includes an impressive group of experts who give one Sunday per month to freely share their collective knowledge on the subject. On hand were Dwain Deets, former NASA Chief of Aerospace Projects Director; Ret. Air Force Lt. Col. David Gapp, former crash site investigator; Ted Muga, former Naval aviator, retired Commander and retired Pan Am pilot; Jerry Bischoff, retired architect; and Ginger Gainer, retired American Airlines flight attendant and purser. Members of Veterans for Peace also provided support – including Vietnam and Iraq War vets.

    The day started inauspiciously as the display was being set up. A couple walked by and the woman pointed to one of the banners with quotes from noted military officials. "Look, honey, Gen. Wesley Clark," she said. They stopped to read the banner and the expressions on their faces dropped as they realized the purpose of the display. The man turned in anger and yelled to us, "Cowards! None of you served!" Immediately Ted Muga pointed over to the USS Midway and replied, “I flew in Vietnam and served on that very vessel.”

    We feared that was going to be the tone for the day -- especially given the media hype to mark the anniversary -- but the rest of the day was very smooth as servicemen and servicewomen, firemen, police, pilots and flight attendants all filed by on their way to the Midway. Many stopped to peruse the boards and ask questions.

    This colorful banner is one of many useful outreach materials you can find in the AE911Truth Online Store.
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    On the east end of the display was a TV with a loop of the powerful 15-minute documentary from AE911Truth, Architects and Engineers: Solving the Mystery of Building 7 – narrated by Ed Asner. I was standing by the TV when a man riding by on his bicycle stopped to watch. I stood by silently letting him take it in, and witnessed utter shock come over him as he watched the footage of Bldg. 7 collapsing. "That’s a controlled demolition!” he exclaimed. “I know, I’m a demolition expert!" It turns out that he is a disabled retired Navy Seal. He had never seen this footage before.

    I called Dwain Deets over and the two of them started talking. It was very evident that this man knew what he was talking about. It also turns out that he was making his way across the U.S. on his bicycle, living on the streets. His disability award is not enough to live on.

    There were several New Yorkers who stopped by including a young woman who lost a relative in the towers and wanted to know what happened, a firefighter who was a first responder at ground zero who suffers yearly with pneumonia, and servicemen, active and retired, all asking questions. Some wanted to argue, but for the most part they left with a more open mind and many more questions than when they started.

    Dwain Deets built scale models to show the difference in size between San Diego’s tallest building and WTC 7, the third skyscraper to be destroyed on 9/11.
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    Hundreds of free DVDs and flyers were given away, some subtitled in Spanish. Many foreign visitors stopped to chat For the most part, they are far better informed than the average American. Late in the afternoon, an Air Force officer attached to the Department of Homeland Security stopped to question Dave Gapp about the appropriateness of wearing his uniform. Gapp replied that it was an official ceremony and he was allowed.

    Then Dave told the gentleman point blank, "I used to believe the official story, and then woke up one day when things stopped making sense. You need to look into this." They shook hands and the officer went on to the Midway ceremony, but I did notice that he came back afterwards and hung back and watched. A seed had been planted.

    A display dedicated to the casualties of the 9/11 wars attracted this disabled veteran.
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    Late in the afternoon, a young wheelchair-bound veteran came by with his mother. Both of his legs were missing above the knees, and one hand was gone. The scars on his arms were still pink. He was locked onto a display dedicated to the disabled veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. He stared and stared at a photo of a Marine in dress blues with an artificial leg. The pain on his face was palpable and I had to walk away to compose myself. He was still there when I returned fifteen minutes later, this time further down the line looking at photos of the buildings in mid-collapse. His mother took a DVD and said he wanted to go to the showing of the new full-length AE911Truth documentary, 9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out, which the group was showing at a community center that evening. The Final Edition of this DVD will be available in early February.

    My husband, Mike Chickey, and I make the drive from L.A. to San Diego once a month in order to be able to stand with this amazing group. The rules are simple, no shouting or bull-horning allowed. Each person is treated with respect and encouraged to investigate the trail of 9/11 Truth on their own.
     
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  2. hezey

    hezey Well-Known Member

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    IDIOCRACY
    Mac, why are you selling this slogan screaming, banner draping, red white and blue crap?
    You should emigrate there like that fuckin cabbage eater [you know who you are]. Sell real estate [Oh, NM, sorry].
    YOU seem to be a yankee.
    So does that fuckin cabbage eater [you know who you are].
     
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  3. Mcloud

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    Not trying to argue with ya hez, but I deisagree I'm tryin to sell any red white blue stuff...I am just pointing out what happened in san diego...
    oh these peoples again
    The red whie and blue aslesmen are tellin ya we got attacked by terrorists, that they hate americas freedom and democracy. that we have to fight the terrorists its the american way. (it aint)
    If I had to do the stars and stripes a favour i would put bush, cheney, securacom, the CIA and about 40 other must-have-been-in-on-its on trial for treason, mass murder and destruction of property on the USS gorilla cock. These people may be at greater risk than they know, as the nuremburg trials tried convicted and executed german leaders for "planning and waging an aggressive war" at the end of ww2. On sept 12 2011, the number of people in the US who believed that the US and/or Israel did 9/11 was close to 0. Now, that number is over 38% nationwide and over 50% in NYC. that's a fact. What will these figures be like in another year? or two or five?
    cabbage eater? who?
     
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    Bohunk. DP.
    SauerKraut gobbler.
     
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    McLoud's dad beat him too many times when he underperformed playing youth hockey.
     
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    Yessir! Some countries still acknowledge international war crimes tribunals and arrest warrants.

    Thank GOD for Canada !!!!


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    Holey shit, you pulling my leg?
    Cheny won't come to canada becuase he will get busted?
    You are kiddin, right?
    No, I am serious.
    Recall, I didn't even know about 11/9 until after they took me off the opiates while I was lying around all wobbly.
    I hate cheny more than I hate MiniBush. MiniBush had a brain, it belonged to Cheny.
    There are very few mighty leaders from anywhere that I would not call sir when I met them.
    I wouldn't call either Cheney or MiniBush any honorific.
    Fuck, I would scream like a girl for the cops.
     
  11. Mcloud

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    Dick Cheney was in hiding for years after 911. literally, hiding. He was acting commander in chief on 9/11.

    He gave the orders for a stand down of air defense systems. There were no airplanes used on 9/11. Definately hologram technology was used at the WTC. No airliner hit the pentagon or went down in shanksville. No airliners hit the WTC buildings either.

    Oh you want to know whos scared of Canada too? Silverstein the WTC leaseholder.
     
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    So in essence, nuclear nano-thermite holograms took down the WTC?
     
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    Actually the interview is quite amazing. he says the "planes" were holograms and the television coverage was digitally edited/modified. Planes do not have the strength of materials to destroy and penetrate structural steel. very interesting.

    he says in his book that there were no airplanes. @6:50
    Famous pilot John Lear says the same thing. no airplanes were used on 911. impossible.
     
  16. looseleaf

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    Well looking at the films again.. and again and again... the holes in the building just are not holes made by an external agency.

    Yes, why is that woman alive and waving from a hole that is supposed to have been made by a speeding jumbo jet just a few minutes ago?

    Where is the burning jet fuel when that woman is there?

    Where did the energy come from to pulverize all that concrete?

    Look closely at the films of the falling at free fall speed buildings.

    Not at the top with all that smoke... look at the walls and the lowest floors..

    Look at the building 7 free fall.

    That Russian guy also said a few things that just are not real. Partly because he still cannot talk about certain Russian technologies without getting a visit from some of his old friends... just to remind him of certain "promises" he made. ha ha ha... However he does offer some perfectly sound and logical conclusions that make sense and along with all the other information collected prove one thing for certain:

    This conspiracy involved many people of the US government and the vast majority of the "official report" is totally false and was created to hide the truth.... just like the Warren Commission for the JFK murder.

    We are fucked. I only hope Cheney and his buddies live long enough to hang for mass murder and treason.
     
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    what is the white plane on 911?

    [​IMG] E4B Doomsday plane command aircraft

    John Lear: The World Trade Center, what they did with controlled demolition is the FIRST part was to make what we call the Wily Coyote Cutout in the face, like an airplane crashed in it, which is absolutely, insanely ridiculous - but a lot of people believed it. And then the other thing is they had to controlled demolitions to cut each girder to 30 feet, so it would fit on Rudy Giuliani’s trucks going out of town.

    The World Trade Center was collapsed by a direct energy weapon, being operated from one of the outer space weapons platforms, and the reason we know is because of the size of the dust that was left of the concrete. It was approximately 80 microns, and that’s what a direct energy weapon collapses when it’s pointed down. That’s what it uses, it’s called “molecular disassociation”. I mean, it just disassociates the molecular structure of concrete and that’s why all that dust was there. There was just nothing left.

    K: Nice one...

    John Lear: And that’s why the basement of the World Trade Center was molten for six weeks, is because, when it finally does hit the ground, it heats it up so much. You can pour as much water as you want, it’s not going to cool off for a time. So I believe all of this was controlled by the E-4B, the Doomsday airplane, the 747 that was seen flying over the White House.

    I think there is the one that did the holographic projection, and they also transmitted the CGI, computer graphics, to the different TV channels, to show the airplanes allegedly crashing. That’s why we had the accidental nose out on one of the, on one of the buildings. They were the ones that sent the alleged cell phone messages, which never occurred. They did all kinds of stuff. They made probably transponder things for the different ATCs to phone.

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    John Lear, retired airline captain, with over 19,000 hours of flight-time, has flown in over 100 different types of planes in 60 different counties around the world.

    Son of Lear Jet inventor, Bill Lear, John is the only pilot to hold every FAA airplane certificate, to include airplane transport rating, flight instructor, ground instructor, flight navigator, engineer, aircraft dispatcher, airframe powerplant mechanic, parachute rigger, and tower operator.

    He flew secret missions for the CIA in Central and Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Africa between 1966 and 1983. He has flown as Captain and check pilot for over 10 different airlines.

    John held 17 world records including speed around the world in a Lear Jet Model 24, set in 1966. He was presented with the PATCO award for outstanding airmanship in 1968, and the Symons Wave memorial. He was the youngest American to climb the Matterhorn in Switzerland in 1959 and in the 1970's owned and skippered the Americas Cup boat, the Soliloquy, out of Marina Del Rey.

    In 1968, John raced a Douglas B26 Invader in the unlimited class at the Reno air races.

    He was a Senior Vice Commander of the China Post 1, the American Legion Post for Soldiers of Fortune. He is a 20 year member of the special operations Association.
     
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  18. looseleaf

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    John Lear is cool and he is joking. He knows what he can say and what he cannot say.

    The truth as it is coming out is getting more and more sinister.

    I could tell you some more, but it will only depress you further.

    Maybe one day when we have that drink and no microphones anywhere...

    Most importantly I'll make sure to be on your side of the border. :D


    :cheers:
     
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    Mac, I am actually a financial supporter (in FY 2011 -- it's true!) of that radio station (or at least of certain shows) and know something about them, have corresponded with DJs.

    The station has some good shows and is extraordinarily independent (hey, because private people send them money), but some of the shows are a bit "sketchy." Some of the stuff there should be considered with some skepticism (or at least some objectivty ;)