ok then, a little piece of advice, have such arguments in private, no need to involve 3rd parties (like me) into discussions where they may not belong (perhaps like me...?) greetze, Zembla
thank you Thank you BART , you put me famous and i appreciate that I fly a long time this game, Tigrao was my 1º teatcher i used nicks like MACEDO & and now i use Tan-go + corvus. Ppl know that i hardly can get the scorepage above 100º. If i'm a cheater i'm a bad cheater because i need 245 or more take-offs to get my few points all in arena already shot me down check my poor scorepages I died in this game already with 1 12mm bullit so what ??sometimes i can kill with 1 or 2 bullits, so what ?. 1 more thing , about 190. there isn't nothing wrong with it. i received and read a link from Vf1-squad , an interview with a WWII allied pilot who shot down some ME190 and he reported that the 190's exploded sometimes with few bullits. Fuel tank position
Does anyone know a cheap and effective medicine for paranoia? About current damage and gunnery model. Please, remember that shooting is a statistical process. Damage from a projectile and/or explosion is a statistical function, even when the damage is applied to the same place - it can be different under similiar conditions. That's how it is in RL. That's how it is modelled in FH. To explain it "from the other end" - when you hit enemy's wing (for example) with 12.7mm bullet (for example), at the relative speed of 500m/s (for example), from the angle of 30 degrees from behind (for example) - the server calculates possible damage severity according to the Gaussian distribution, and then uses a random generator to calculate the actual damage that will be sent to clients. Bart, unfortunately you were a victim of a strange fluctuation. Such things happen, and happen much more often then once in a million. There is no way to control the damage from the client's end. The only thing the client can do to "cheat" is to increase the bullet speed, but this possible cheat is traced for more then a year now. If the bullet speed exceeds 1000m/s server divides it by 2 or 4 (don't remember now) before calculating actual damage. Please, stop being so paranoid about "cheaters". The damage and gunnery model is extremely complicated, including the blind luck, as it was in RL. It's not like "19 12.7mm will never rip the 190 wing off, while 20 will always tear it away". It depends on many things, including probability factor.
WTG Boroda! Great post. It will help a lot stopping these kind of posts. BTW: I'd suggest to nicai to post this to the "before you post anything" sticky thread.
Hi Boroda, >Does anyone know a cheap and effective medicine for paranoia? Sure I do, but I don't trust it! ;-) Actually, a good medicine for paranoia would be to disable the showhits command. That would bring down the "109 I HIT YOU 200 12MM AND YOU FLY ON? CHEATER!" messages on channel 100 dramatically. There'd still be the complementary "109 YOU HIT ME 2 12 MM AND I DIE? CHEATER!" messages based on the after-action statistics, but it would already be an improvement anyway Regards, Henning (HoHun)
*gahris: lol *thrapt: exactly. like i said before, 190s (except for 190D9) suffer from damage model error - fuel area is too big, making it too easy to hit them. when that happens, plane blows up (including "both wings and even under part!"). you dont think it was fuel, since dmg messages, hole messages, debriefing messages, etc, cover your radio buffer. *ada: nice yo have you here in international forum! btw - your english is still good! *zembla: he already tried PVT *usling: to start - its m/s, not kmph ;-) and 880m/s is hispano's muzzle velocity. so 999 wouldnt really be much of an advantage. trying to control even more could cause normal bullets to be treated as cheated ones. *rafael: i have an item in FAQ on cheating, done by exec already. *boroda: good thing bart doesnt have admin rights! or else he would keep kicking tan-go out of arena every 2 seconds thinking he was a cheater! wait a second!
I killed a La5 the other day with 2x7.62mm does that count? I don't know who was more surprised, me or the La pilot. But I agree with Boroda, afterall they say there is such a thing as a Golden Bullet. Malino
@ boroda: wtg !! @ho-hun: cc, the cheater calls increased dramatically. maybe about posts like this???? this movie shows a lot: netlag and connex-probs en masse. but it shows defenitly no cheat !!! pls, as i said again and again, its a simple game, software, lan/internet. pls learn the basics of networking, maybe you will understand my posts some days. i am sooooo tired about these cheater-threads
i remember when an admin came here two years ago to post the new damage system. (i failed to find the post to add the info to my site ) its was something like this: "there is a probability that your bullet would destroy a vital part of an aircraft's structure." the so called golden bullet.
Zembla, watch out when u talk to spaceb. Anything u type to him that will not offend anybody will surely offend him. Be carefull my friend. I think u missunderstood him, Zembla. His complain to me on this thread was completely offtopic here that led to yours and others missunderstandings. Spaceb just wanted to start a personal flame on a public forum. Sorry to u others that had to read some useless offtopic posts here. *Spaceb, next time u dislike something i write, please send me a PRIVATE message before starting a flame, ok? ...ah, but dont expect answer.... Thank you.
MG151/20 and MG/FFM could have 100m/s higher muzzle velocity in FH imho. MG151/20 FH 690m/s MG151/20 RL 805m/s Mgeschoss 690m/s AP Good compromise could be about 760m/s imho. MG/FFM FH 590m/s MG/FFM RL 685m/s Mgeschoss 590m/S AP (who on earth would use AP in MG/FFM??) Good compromise due to velocity loss of lighter mine round at range could be 650m/s. MG/FFM with Mgeschoss (which this weapon was designed for) 685m/s So in my humble opinion it would be only fair to have... MG151/20 690->760m/s.(lower MV simulating velocity loss at range of mine round compared AP) MG/FFM 590->660m/s (lower MV simulating faster velocity loss of Mine round compared to AP shot)
haupt read read read: http://forum.wbfree.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8692&perpage=15&pagenumber=1 I tried to discuss you by sending you a private message... "haupt check private messages, I have to talk to you." your answer?? "CC Just checked my PVT messages. Found a message of some guy whining. Usual chicken's act. I deleted the message..." Eat your words
Please my gooooood friend Osvaldo "Spaceb" Gonzalez, could you stop posting it in public and send me a private message? Sorry all for this, but looks like Spaceb love novels. Again: if u have something to say to me, do it in private, ok? But dont expect reply. ps: sometimes u makes me remember my 4 years old brother in law Vinicius. Im glad that his sister isnt like him. See ya!
Moderators, please come to action, since spaceb and haupt's pointless discussion is completely besides the topic... greetze, Zembla
u all are idiot #@!%&$@! as u all i've read so many post about supossed "cheaters"... how can someone cheat in FH? if u are lucky in a shoot, nevermind, surely won't happen twice.. poor tan-go lol, i really liked his post and his 256 take's off all calm down relax and kill each other if this doesn't works smoke some pot
im glad it went offtopic. i dont really enjoy cheat threads (put offtopic in that! personal fights, muzzle velocity... )
