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Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by Funtom, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. Funtom

    Funtom Well-Known Member

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    Just for imagination, what will be new/corrected in this version?
     
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    What's new in FHLauncher 1.68 open beta
    (could be changed in 1.68r2 release)

    New Airplanes
    Yakovlev Yak-1 series 111 (Yak-1B) – development of Yak-1 series 20
    Kawasaki Ki-45 KAId "Toryu"– heavy fighter-bomber and interceptor
    Still without graphics and cockpit. Used Beaufighter and Bf 110 respectively
    Savoia-Marchetti S.M.79 series II "Sparviero" – Italian medium and torpedo bomber
    Still without graphics and cockpit. Used Ju 52/3m g7e. Bombs sight is disabled temporarily

    Removed Airplanes
    Yak-9T for Yak-1 series 111 (see Yak-9D)
    Fw 190 F-8 for future Kawasaki Ki-45 KAId "Toryu" (see Fw 190 A-8)
    Ju 52/3m g7e for future Savoia-Marchetti S.M.79 series II "Sparviero" (common transport will be Li-2 (aka L2D4)

    New airplanes as modifications of already existing ones
    Pe-3bis, long-range interceptor, placed into Pe-2 series 179
    Il-2I, experimental fighter, placed into Il-2 with NS-37

    Performance stats
    LaGG-3, La-5, La-5F, La-5FN, La-7 – completely new credible performance stats are set
    Now La's are strict, but performance is better than Yak's (except LaGG-3 :-D)
    Turn time, 1000m, 75% fuel:
    LaGG-3 22-23s
    La-5 22-23s
    La-5F 18.5-19s
    La-5FN 18.5-19s
    La-7 18-18.5s
    WEP/Takeoff mode:
    LaGG-3 total time unlimited, continuous 5 min, cooling 5 min
    La-5 total time 10 min, continuous 5 min, cooling 5 min
    La-5F total time unlimited, continuous 10 min, cooling 20 min
    La-5FN total time unlimited, continuous 10 min, cooling 20 min
    La-7 total time unlimited, continuous 10 min, cooling 20 min

    Bf 110 G-2 and Bf 110 G-2/R4 (/R4) – credible PerfStats set

    Beaufighter Mk. IC – completely new credible performance stats are set

    Il-2 with NS-37 – underrated engine fixed

    He 177 A-3/R2 – completely new credible performance stats are set
    Stall characteristics improved

    Pe-8 with AM-35A prod. 1941 replaced by Pe-8 with M-82A prod. 1943
    Altitude characteristics lowered

    F4U-1D – performance of WB 2.77r3 set
    F4U-1A – performance of WB 2.77r3 F4U-1D set (without WEP)
    F4U-4 – performance of WB 2.77r3 set

    Ki-84-I – performance of WB 2.77r3 set

    Weapon loads:
    La-5/5F/5FN/7 – added light load with 40 rpg
    Yak-9T – moved into Yak-9D
    Yak-1B PVO, lightened for Air Defence – placed into Yak-1 series 111
    Bf 110 G-2/M1, Bf 110 G-2/M1/M3, Bf 110 G-2/M1/M5, reinforced interceptors –placed into Bf 110 G-2/R3 (/R4)
    Il-2 field modification with gunner – placed into Il-2 prod. 1941
    Fw 190 F-8 – moved into Fw 190 A-8
    Beaufighter Mk. IC received torpedo
    Yak-1 series 20 – bombs are limited to FAB-50
    LaGG-3 series 11 – rockets upgraded to RS-132, bombs are limited to FAB-50
    C.200 series I, early lighter series – placed into C.202 series VII
    C.205V series I, early lighter series – placed into C.205V series III

    Miscellaneous
    LaGG-3 and La-5 assigned to use Yak-1's cockpit instead of P-40's
    Li-2 is available for gold side instead of Ju 52/3m g7e as Showa L2D3
    Various typos fixed
     
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    Nice, thks :)

    And RPS will be the same? Look, go to arena when La5FN is available and fly gold side. Without BnZ you are always only a dead meat what is rly amazing for bigger actions. It's ~ month ago when 8 golds wanted to cap a middle fld and just 2 reds in La5FN mb one hour easily terminated all our actions. And be sure that it wasn't a pilot skills...

    2nd thing- why is 109g2 removed so early? If you want La5FN like now so give us 109g2 longer because G6 is just lazy bitch, no serious improvement except switched machine guns and top speed a lil bit, rest is the worse. G2 is the best plane against La5FN if you want to stay alive...
     
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    18.5 - 19s turn and a bit more strict handling should solve the problem :).
     
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    How many secs is current value for La5FN?
     
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    Il-2I
    Armoured fighter, prototype only. Conception based on the several dogfights which Il-2 started against Luftwaffe bombers. Proved non-perspective due to only old Luftwaffe bombers could be caught by it.

    Do you really think it is needed?

    WTG!!! :super:

    BIG WTG!!!
    Btw, will we use C.200 with same carachteristics of C.202 or are you talking about C.202 SI with 2x12.7mm?

    With the same red otto? :rolleyes:

    WTG guys
     
  7. gil---

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    16sec with 100%fuel and 15s with 25%. About same at SL and at 1000m.

    Heavy armored plane with not bad turn and 2x vya-23 cannons can be great fun :). Not against buffs, surely ;).

    P.S. How could i forget?! Will 190D9 elevator control be fixed?
     
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  8. Alex

    Alex FH Beta Tester

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    Простите, а можно описание изменений на русском выложить где-нибудь? Я не силён в инглиш...
     
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    yep, good question :)
     
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    fas asked for it.
    if he will abuse it too much for defensive scramblings, i'll make fas to remove it :)

    sorry for typo. i mean C.202 series I and C.205V series I.
    not C.200

    with the same 7.62mm shkas for a while.
     
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    analysed the complain already many times.

    flight model is pretty copy of 190a-8, including controllability. considering other engine stats

    nowadays i think that problem of 190d-9 is p-51.

    when people see diving pony from 190a-8 they accept it philosophically.

    but when people fly 190d-9 that dives fast, they always try to chase diving pony. and pony behave good in dive, better than both 190s.

    i'd ask people to test dive of 190a-8 vs 190d-9, not vs p-51d. anyone?
     
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    I can, what exactly u need?

    Try to make hard flat turns starting them at 600 kmh sea level. A8 goes to full blackout easily and to accelerated stall if u continue to pull the handle, D9 can't make even blackout. It can seem not too important, but when u attak meneuvering target or been attacked and try to evade it becames vital.
     
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    A)
    0)prepare pen and paper

    1)fw 190 a-8 is chased by fw 190 d-9 at d5.
    if pilots are not equal, anton should piloted by more experienced pilot. or at least that one who is better in 190.

    2)anton must try to run away from dora
    shooting is prohibited.
    anton must gain d15 distance from dora in less than 10 minutes.

    3)if step 2 is failed, publish the paper here and go to stage D)

    4)if step 2 successful, write the trick to the paper as forbidden for future use. the trick could be split-S, dive, dive manoeuvring, climb, scissors, direct acceleration, continuous loops, plain turn, anything, whatever anton can imagine.

    5)repeat step 1), considering the successful trick is forbidden now.

    D)same as stage A) but dora must shake-off anton from dora's six. more experienced pilot must be in dora.
     
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    what are chances of adding the fiat G.55 (Italian ) to RPS?
     
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    What about the F6F-3 spin characteristics (i.e. unable to recover from spin at all)? :confused:
     
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    which graphics to use? and why not c.200?
     
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    You can purchase the download or a CD or Warbirds 2009 for PC or Mac for

    $19.97 that works with Vista.


    https://www.totalsims.com/index.php?page=download_store

    and see system requirements.
     
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    ehm. you mean that it will be ok to use f4f/fm2 graphics?

    edit: confused with g.50.

    ok. and which date?
     
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    and why 16 pre-serial and 15 serial (before italy capitulates) would make it worth modelling?
    or you mean 274 (after capitulation) for reds?

    p.s.marginal advantage over veltro - climb and speed worse by cost of one more gun... :dunno:
     
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