Air War at april

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  1. ppedott_vibora

    ppedott_vibora Well-Known Member

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    From now on, Ill publish month by month important events in Air War at WWII, inviting people to re-create those events at TH, The first suggestion is follow:

    April 18 1943:
    The hunt and death of Adm. Yamamoto:
    US fighter aircraft in planned raid, intercept Admiral Yamamoto?s plane over Bougainville and shoot its down, killing the Admiral.

    [​IMG]

    Forces:

    REDS
    8 P38s:
    >>>4 Attack force;
    >>>4 High CAP;


    GOLDS
    12 Zeroes:
    >>>6 scorting bettys;
    >>>6 in alert status: 3 at Torokina, 3 at Buin/Kahili
    2 Bettyes (one with Adm.Yamamoto. -as Shanghai or Human gunner)


    If someone interested, please, make contact.

    Operation Vengeance in portuguese
     
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  2. tigrou

    tigrou Well-Known Member

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    sounds nice !
     
  3. -cbfs-

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    Yeah, I'm all for it! Been so long since BoB, would be a good chance to see some people again (I have rarely flown during the past several months).

    :)
     
  4. Maletin

    Maletin Well-Known Member

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    i want to join.
     
  5. ppedott_vibora

    ppedott_vibora Well-Known Member

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    So, gentlemen, lets set a date/timeslot for event!

    Will need a Red and a Gold commander...

    Tomorrow Ill publish initial rules/settings (delay time for red/gold take off, Red/Gold objectives, etc...)
    suggestions will be welcome!
    :)
     
  6. biles

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    Will the red players be allowed to sit in the gold tower and spy?
    If not, how are they gonna zap the jap?
    That is how they did it in r/l:
    A comms intercept.
     
  7. ppedott_vibora

    ppedott_vibora Well-Known Member

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    Hunt of Adm Yamamoto

    settings:

    (any suggestion is welcome)

    Fields open:


    F1 Port Moresby 1
    F2 Mile Drome


    F11 Vuanakanau
    F12 Tokua
    F13 Rabaul

    F18 Buka
    F19 Torokina
    F20 Buin
    F21 Tenekan


    Briefing:

    18/04/1943;
    1)- Adm Yamamoto is planning an inspection tour at Bougainville air fields;
    2)- USA intelligence intercepted radio comms and is aware of that;
    3)- 8 P38s is sent to intercept and destroy Admiral's plane;
    4)- T0 P38s took off Port Moresby (IRL was Henderson field, Guadalcanal, but, we havent it at WB maps and distance is quite equal)
    5)- T+20min 2 Betties and 6 zeroes take off from Rabaul/Vuanakanau/Tokua to perform Yamamoto's inspection trip;

    Red objectives: find the Yamamoto's Betty and shot it down;
    Gold objectives: evade enemy figthers and get Yamamoto safely at Buin (F20) air field.

    Rules:
    To golds:
    Golds planes MUST NOT fly at:

    9.8; 10.8; 11.8
    10.7; 11.7
    11.6
    11.5
    as showed
    [​IMG]

    >Betties MUST land in one of Bougainville fields fields BEFORE get buin (F18, F19 or F21)
    >Zeroes can land and refuel, if desired (field command)

    Reds:
    >4 P38 MUST fly at 4k over Bougainville;
    >4 P38 can fly low searching Betties;

    general:

    Reds take off at T0 (time zero) golds take of at T+20min (eg with 20 minutes delay after reds take off...)

    With betties will be allowed the take off of 6 zeroes at close scort.

    At Torokina, and Buin, will be 3 zeroes in alert each, and it only can be called at enemy sight.

    There is NO radar in the event

    =========

    2 biles:
    I think (but I could be wrong, as usual...) that if reds knows that the Admiral is doing some kind of trip, it is equal to snoop the jap radio comms... what you think?

    2 mixer:
    I also think (but I also could be wrong, as usual...) that the fact that Admiral's scort KNOWS that will be attacked (somewhere, somwwhen (arghhh) ) is a kind of advantage that the Jap scort didnt have in rela life... what you think?

    ***still IN CONSTRUCTION***
     
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  8. ppedott_vibora

    ppedott_vibora Well-Known Member

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    look above
     
  9. Snakeye

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    should be 16 x P-38 ;)
    well, 12 would be acceptable, but 8 is too few definitely
     
  10. tigrou

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    20 min delay is big ! for the runnig scenario, will be dificult.
    why no set a same time to start for all? and choose distance?

    btw , we need an engagement or the gameplay will boring :)
    imagin p38 finding nothing about 40mm of flight and betty safe land :/
     
  11. ppedott_vibora

    ppedott_vibora Well-Known Member

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    2 Snakeye:
    In matter of fact, we have 2 (AFAIK) versions of number of Zeroes in that event:
    1) Lamphier and USAAF says that was 6 scort zeroes and 6 (3 and 3) landed Zeroes in alert... (as stated above)
    2) Vice Admiral Matome Ugaki's diary, that was Chief of "Estado Maior" (sry bad eng) of Combined Fleet and was w/ Yamamoto (in the second Betty) "AT 6:00 Yamamoto took off in a Type 1 bomber... ...I could see ous scort taking positions: 3 at our left, 3 above us and 3 crossing to the right, performing 9 at total..." (Zero! Masatake Okumiya, Jiro Horikoshi, Marti Caidin. E.P. Dutton & Co Inc NY-ed. USA)

    regarding number of P38s:

    from Vice admiral diary:
    "...Our fighters spoted a group of at least 24 enemy planes..."

    from Closterman P. Feux du ciel - Flammarion ed paris):
    "Mj Mitchell: Me and Dough Cunnings, each one in a 6 plane section will try to protect the intercept patroll against scort fighters; Lamphier, Barber, Holmes, Hine, Moore and Lanahan will be free to shot down the bombers..."

    from Lamphier report:
    "we has only 18 planes to that mission... ... a section of Mj Mitchell with 14´planes will be at 6000m to engage the fighter of Kahili. Lamphier's section of 4 planes will fly at 3000m to take the interception..."

    :) Is that possible we can have more than 20, 25 pilots in this event?

    2 tigrou:
    The P38s flight time from Port Moresby to the shores of Bougainville is 35 minutes (I personally did the flight to set times);
    The Betties flight time from Vuanakanau to the sight of Buka is 10 minutes;

    So a reasonable diference of 20 minutes will make both groups get Bougainville with a 5 minutes of tactical spare time, allowing to commander set its tactics for the battle...
    Boring? I wouldnt say that becouse Im planning few communications surprises for this event! ;)
     
  12. hugo baskervill

    hugo baskervill Well-Known Member

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    what date? 18. 4. 2006? I'm not sure if i can join this date, i will be in school.

    btw there were so much p38s because Americans though they were at least 60 zeroes like cover. Some pilot said, that they must count more than 6 cover zeroes because when American general coming to visity, they volunteery cover of honour by all planes.

    if i will have time, i would like fly zero or p38, i can fly both.
     
  13. buraty

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    Maybe it will be better (and much more interesting) to turn off inflight map or if possible to enable inflight maps on Betties only. For USAAF pilots the most difficult thing was to reach interception area without navigation marks and of course return to the base. I think with inflight maps this scenario will be too predictable in favour of reds.
     
  14. tigrou

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    cc i'd love this feature, but i think it is impossible :(
     
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    i will, but must be in a weekend