Best thing for biles to say to cops:

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  1. rudeboy

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    Way home from pub. 1:00 in morning. Standing on empty street, no-one around for a mile in any direction. I am talking with two other guys. We are deciding wether to give a dollar or two to a dumpster-diver.
    Cops come.
    I guess they had nothing to do so they would bother three guys walking.
    Well.
    You know.
    Never mind the quotes.
    When I was asked who I was, I asked if I would get the shit kicked out of me if I said I wanted to go home without two men pulling out of a big car and demanding my name.
    Never mind quotes. Cop number one said,
    never mind.
    I told the guy my name. He already knew I don't like having to give information about myself to anyone who has a gun.
    That is reasonable, isn't it?
    Well, I ended out telling my name. But I didn't give address.
    The other two guys, young fellows had to pull out their wallets and show documents. THIS IS CANADA. NOT CHECHOSLOVACHIA IN 1940.
    So, anyway, the two young guys had to explain where they came from and what they are doing. I stood and listenned.
    Then we were 'allowed' to go. I wasn't buggered after my question.
    Hmmm. Grey hair and yellow skin and a shaggy beard? AIDS victim? Jaundice? What?
    We wandered off.
    The cops went that away.
    We seperated after another block or two.
    ANd guess what?
    I was going up a hill and had stopped to catch my breath. I saw a cop in a car pulling out of one of the thousands of cop places in this contry.
    I figured he was gonna come up the road and bug me, becuase there weren't anyone else to bug.
    He did.
    I could see him from up a hill with a terrain feature between us, so I new he was coming and I had time to stop and wait.
    I waited on the side of a hill.
    ANd sure enough, cop drives up to me.
    FUCK.
    What was I doing wrong?
    Walking????????
    Anyway, this cop rolls his window down and says, Hello! WHere are you going?
    I said, "I had two heart attacks and two strokes a year ago and I figured I would stop on this hill to catch my breath.
    He said
    OH
    And he put it in gear and drove away.

    Funny.

    I am a wanted criminal becuase I walked on a rail track last year.


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  2. Mcloud

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    Biles aren't you glad you read my posts?

    If you are not under arrest you do not have to even speak at all to police, you can keep right on walking. You don't have to give them your ID or anything at all.

    1.If you are under arrest you must provide your ID or you can be charged with obstruction of justice. If you are told you are under arrest you can ask what the charge is, they must inform you. If you believe you have been wrongly arrested, you can force the police to answer for their actions to a judge by way of habeus corpus. They must prove "probable cause" that you have commited a crime. If you have a lawyer, they know about this. If you do not have a lawyer, one will be appointed to you. This is called duty counsel. If you are appointed duty counsel try to remember the name of the laywer and ask for their number, you are allowed to make reasonable efforts to contact your lawyer, duty counsel or otherwise. IF YOU ARE TOLD YOU ARE UNDER ARREST, GIVE YOUR NAME AND REMAIN SILENT. TAKE NOTE OF THE POLICE OFFICER'S BADGE NUMBER, A 4 DIGIT NUMBER ON THE SHOULDER AND/OR BREAST OF EVERY COP IN CANADA.

    2. If you are detained by police, the standard is lower than probable cause, they only have to show "reasonable suspicion" again by way of habeus corpus. Your lawyer or an appointed lawyer can demand to a judge that the police show reasonable suspicion. Cops have a way of releasing people at this point. They start thinking "hmm, maybe I shouldn't fuck with this guy, I don't want to be charged with false arrest or detainment". IF YOU ARE DETAINED BY POLICE GIVE YOUR NAME AND REMAIN SILENT. Police can only detain a person for the purpose of an investigation. This investigatory period is brief, during this period you don not have to do anything a police officer tells you, ie "stand here" we NEED to take you picture " is a lie, also you do not have to give fingerprints etc. DO NOT allow police to lie to you or trick you into submitting to their demands. Stand your ground, they will back down, I guarantee it. If you are not sure if you are being detained by police ask them this key question :" Am I free to leave?" By law they must answer you. If you are not free to leave, ask them why you are being detained, they must answer by law.

    3. Police have many tricks to get you to talk. They will often use threats
    "Get in the car or I will arrest you for trespassing" Stuff like that. Fear tactics. "You better do what I say or you will be in trouble" "Have you ever been arrested for anything?" Is a cops way of finding out if you have a criminal record.

    (Trespassing on railway property is not a criminal offense, it is only a provincial offence, and you can't be arrested for it. If you refuse to give you ID however, you can be arrested at that point for obstruction of justice, The police can demand ID from anyone if they have committed an offense, provincial or criminal. CN/CP Police are armed with handguns but they can only use deadly force when they, another officer, or a member of the public are in immediate danger of being killed. CN/CP Police are notoriously corrupt. They have jurisdiction over their property, and regularly come in contact with the general public. They do not answer to the general public however, they answer to a corporation. Herein lies an accountabililty problem. I have told a CN Police officer to fuck off, and much much much worse than that. He doesn't fuck with me anymore. Stared that cocksucker down. I would tell you the story, but you probably wouldn't believe it. )

    4. It is a little know fact, that a police officer must tell you "you are under arrest" AND AT THE SAME TIME, they must PHYSICALLY TOUCH YOU. If a cop tells you you are under arrest, you actually are not if they don't touch you. And vice versa, they must tell you that you are under arrest, touching alone with the intention of arrest or detainment will not suffice. Police rely on the public not knowing their rights and lie to the members of the public on a regular basis.

    5. Police are only allowed to use as much force as is necessary to bring someone into custody.

    6. If you are not under arrest, you are free to continue on your way.

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  3. looseleaf

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    So much for public service...

    I would have thought the cop would offer you a ride up the hill.

    I wonder what he would have done if you asked him for a ride?

    Years ago almost the same thing happened to me.

    However i was walking my bicycle as it blew a tire.

    So the cop asks me what I'm doing and why am I walking with that bike. I told him I'm walking the bike because I cannot ride it- flat tire (and it was at night and no light on the bike).

    The cop asked where I was going , pulled his car over, opened the trunk and said to put the bike in the trunk and he will give me a ride to my house. I accepted his offer and got home.
     
  4. rudeboy

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    If you must be under arrest in order to be forced to show your papers, they will arrest you and they do. I have been there. Lots of times.
    There is no 'right to remain silent' unless and until you are arrested.
    If you are confronted by cops and they ask you questions, de facto you don't have that right. You are interrogated [questioned] until they decide to arrest you or not. After you are cuffed they will read those rights from their card. And you may or may not go to jail, but you don't have to talk, then, AFTER you have been arrested.
    If you don't talk or you turn and walk away, YOU WILL BE ARRESTED. It's catch 22 and is done pragmatically, cynically and deliberately by design, in Parliament [not the fuckin congress, again, this is NOT USA].
    Every fucking time. This is the British Empire [called commonwealth], it is NOT the USA.

    Canada [Britain]

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    USA [Britain's bastard son]

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    and they are fundamentally different ways of dealing with neighbors, cops, enemies, suspects etc.
    In Canada, coppers seldom are punished for harming or worse, killing people who did nothing wrong, the innocent. In Canada, cops get away with shit all the time. ALL THE TIME, man.
    In the USA, if a copper harms, or worse, kills an innocent person, there is no fancy talking gonna keep him from becoming just another convict in a Yankee penitentiary.

    In the states, cops are scared of people. In Canada, people are scared of cops. It's always been that way.
     
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  5. looseleaf

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  7. Red Ant

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    That's a joke, right Mcloud?
     
  8. gandhi

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    google sinks those patches

    for example, the califorinia highway patrol clearly has different patches:

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  9. gandhi

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    by the way, if you translate rudeboy's 1st post into chinese and then back into english it's pretty funny
     
  10. Mcloud

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    Masonry's nationwide organization of men from most walks of life provided one of the most efficient private intelligence networks imaginable. Private information on anybody in the country could normally be accessed very rapidly through endless permutations of masonic contacts - police, magistrates, solicitors, bank managers, Post Office staff ('very useful in supplying copies of a man's mail'), doctors, government employee bosses of firms and nationalized industries etc., etc. dossier of personal data could be built up on anybody very quickly. When the major facts of an individual's life were known, areas of vulnerability would become apparent. Perhaps he is in financial difficulties; perhaps he has some social vice - if married he might 'retain a mistress' or have proclivity for visiting prostitutes; perhaps there is something in his past he wishes keep buried, some guilty secret, a criminal offence (easily obtainable through Freemason police of doubtful virtue), or other blemish on his character: all these and more could be discovered via the wide-ranging masons network of 600,000 contacts, a great many of whom were disposed to do favours for one another because that had been their prime motive for joining. Even decent Masons could often be 'conned' into providing information on the basis that 'Brother Smith needs this to help the person involved'. The adversary would even sometimes be described as a fellow Mason to the Brother from whom information was sought perhaps someone with access to his bank manager or employer. The 'good' Mason would not go to the lengths of checking with Freemasons Hall whether or not this was so. The 'target' was presented as a Brother in distress by a fellow Mason, especially a fellow Lodge member, that would be enough for any upright member of the Craft.

    Sometimes this information gathering process - often involving a long chain of masonic contacts all over the country and possibly abroad - would be unnecessary. Enough would be known in advance about the adversary to initiate any desired action against him.

    I asked how this 'action' might be taken.

    'Solicitors are very good at it,' said Christopher. 'Get your man involved in something legal - it need not be serious - and you have him.' Solicitors, I was told, are 'past masters' at causing endless delays, generating useless paperwork, ignoring instructions, running up immense bills, misleading clients into taking decisions damaging to themselves.

    Masonic police can harass, arrest on false charges, and plant evidence. 'A businessman in a small community or person in public office arrested for dealing in child pornography, for indecent exposure, or for trafficking in drugs is at the end of the line,' said Christopher. 'He will never work again. Some people have committed suicide after experiences of that kind.'

    Masons can bring about the situation where credit companies and banks withdraw credit facilities from individual clients and tradesmen, said my informant. Bank can foreclose. People who rely on the telephone for their work can be cut off for long periods. Masonic employees of local authorities can arrange for a person's drains to be inspected and extensive damage to be reported, thus burdening the person with huge repair bills; workmen carrying out the job can 'find' - In reality cause - further damage. Again with regard to legal matters, a fair hearing is hard to get when a man in ordinary circumstances is in financial difficulties. If he is trying to fight a group of unprincipled Freemasons skilled in using the 'network' it will be impossible because masonic Department of Health and Social Security and Law Society officials can delay applications for Legal Aid endlessly.

    'Employers, if they are Freemasons or not, can be given private information about a man who has made himself an enemy of Masonry. At worst he will be dismissed or consistently passed over for promotion.'

    Christopher added, 'Masonic doctors can also be used. But for some reason doctors seem to be the least corruptible men.

    'Only the fighters have any hope of beating the system once it's at work against them,' he told me. 'Most people, fighters or not, are beaten in the end, though. It's . . . you see, I ... you finish up not knowing who you can trust. You can get no help because your story sounds so paranoid that you are thought a crank, one of those nuts who think the whole world is a conspiracy against them. It is a strange phenomenon. By setting up a situation that most people will think of as fantasy, these people can poison every part of a person's life. If they give in they go under. If they don't give in It's only putting off the day because if they fight, so much unhappiness will be brought to the people around them that there will likely come a time when even their families turn against them out of desperation. When that happens and they are without friends wherever they look, they become easy meat. The newspapers will not touch them'.

    'There is no defence against an evil which only the victims and the perpetrators know exists.'

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    Illuminati.

    My grand-pappy was some kinda evil. My Granny was too, evil. My pappy was evil. They all hung around at The Hall. once a month or more or less often except during harvest time or too much pissing rain or driving snow or howling roasting buggy, Canadian weather.
    Evil bunch these fuckers were. Oh, the stupid ass, they had women as members.

    Fuck are you ignorant, dreamer, stupid stupid... sometimes.

    I should be ashamed to have three I can name as Odd Fellows three of my fore-bearers, two Langley Farmers who plotted to take over and their wife/mother, the Browns, Granny, Sam and Dick, the evil Lodgers, Of Langley Prairy.
    You stupid ass..
    For some reason, I am not ashamed or afraid though. I guess I must be evil like my elders too, stuck in the loop.
    Evil.


     
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  13. looseleaf

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    Odd Fellows are evil?

    Is this some sort of Masonic order sub-set?

    I thought it was more an association like a tradesman guild.


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  14. Red Ant

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    Okayyy, not a joke then I guess. :@drunk:
     
  15. looseleaf

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    Nice karma song. Who are all those people?

    Agents of the Devil? Agents of God?

    Elvis Presley's daughter is a Scientologist...

    A black Mason? Really?
     
  16. rudeboy

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    Yes!!:
    It was sarcasm. Odd Fellows are fine.

    Should I, if I use sarcasm or lampoon, have need to explain to my readers what sarcasm is, indeed, or lampoon writ by me? Don't you KNOW ME YET?....
    and the difference, how a person can tell sarcasm from, well um... non-sarcasm???????
    Damn it.

    I wanted to demonstrate that there are organized groups of people who gather and do NOT PLOT FOR DOMINATION OF HUMANITY.
    Understand?
    Duh.

    Odd Fellows are okay, man. Kind of harmless, as harmless as organized groups of philatelests or AD&D players who gather to have fellowship. There are a lot of boogeymen, but there are other men who aren't boogie-anything. I think most of us are not boogey-people.

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  17. Boroda

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    Here we have to have papers with us. I don't look like a Chechen bomber, light hair and short beard. But I always show my passport to a militia warrior who stops me.

    Shit. I like it, боец милиции, boyets militsii, militia warrior.

    Came home from work unusuially early tonight, at 20:30. Saw a militia car by my apartment building entrance, and a militia girl with a handsome polite German Shepard coming out. Yes, sure - another flat in my apartment house got robbed. Hid a Greenalls gin/tonic can in a pocket (yes i have big pockets) and tried to talk to warriors standing on my way. Said I got robbed a year ago and asked about the camera they have, looking at the entrance to my apartment staircase. Know what they said!? "You better pay for it!" Motherfucking parasites! Parasites in militia, parasites in municipal contractors office. I STFU 'cause i had a can of booze and didn't want to get arrested like 1meter from my flat door.

    I work in Academy of Science, for my salary there I can only eat the last dick, unsatled, while that bastards earn average Moscow salary. And the only thing they, parasites can do is stand at the staircase and smoke giggling. Or, more likely, bang me or other drunks or illegal immigrants for money. I like any Tajik drug-smuggler more then that warriors. At least Tajiks risk their lives swallowing kilogramms of Afghani heroin wrapped in condoms, while this bastards just bang money.

    Law-enforcement is overestimated. Fuck them.

    Soon people will just start killing them. Hanging them on lamp-posts along with "businessmen" and parliament members.
     
  18. looseleaf

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    Seriously Dude, I really had no idea about that organization, that's why I missed it; the joke. Sorry. ha ha ha... now I got it. Delayed action reaction.

    :cheers:
     
  19. looseleaf

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    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
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  20. rudeboy

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    Baba Russ has been there and done that, eh?
    I think meek people should be armed or capable of gaining arms and aware of their responsibilities while under arms. The majority of citizens in the USA who value their rights and freedoms and who keep and maintain arsenals, have the best motives.
    USA doesn't want tyranny, they do not want princes and potentates. I admire the reasons for the arming of American Citizens. Force isn't applied with good judgement very often though. But what are a people supposed to do?
    Do they want Police States? Or have a peaople do what they think needs done, eh?
    Could Russians point fingers and hoist up a few thousand gallows poles?
    You bet. They have done it before.
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