Best thing for biles to say to cops:

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  1. Mcloud

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    Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool:cheers: :cheers: :super:

    OMG Boroda please more posts.! Why are you so silent with all of these experiences you can tell us about!

    It is not only me and biles that get attacked by police. 2 days ago I was stopped by police in a park at 9:40 PM. It is the same park that I walk by EVERYDAY OF MY life for at least three years.
    He drives his car through the park, over the grass and comes at me. He has a search light on me. He said "COME HERE!"

    I am doing chin ups on some exercise equipment, I stop doing chin ups, and I walk over to him, he says "GET YOUR HANDS OUT OF YOUR POCKETS!!!!!!!!"
    I put my hands up over my head, to surrender the way that all people who do chin ups do

    %)

    I walk over to him and he says "What are you doing here?"
    I said, "I was thinking about robbing a bank"
    He said "Okay, I want you to take everything out of your pockets and put them on the hood of my car"
    "I told him I don't have anything, No ID, nothing"
    He said "What is your name?"
    I told him my name, (but i didn't have to) he is just being a cocksucker.
    he said "Have you ever had any problems with the police before?"

    I told him "No"

    Then he tells me to stand in front of his car, he gets into his car and starts to check my Id, my date of birth etc.

    He goes crazy, he is shaking now and says "Stay at the front of my car!!!"

    "This computer says you have been arrested many times before!, under the mental health act, uttering threats, there is a lot of stuff here on my screen about you!!!! There is a warning about you "Approach with caution!" You said you haven't had any problems with the police before!! "

    "I told him" I have no criminal record. Never been to jail.

    "No problems"

    Then I walk away, again, a free man.

    Biles go here
    http://www.bccla.org/
    http://www.bccla.org/arrest/handbook.pdf
     
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    I am not starting anymore topics that aren't about WBFH.
    So I will post this good OT news in here, an already ruined topic.
    A girl lives on Vancouver Island, BC. She is 18. We are related.
    It seems she is my daughter......
    errrrrrrrm.
    Not bad news. Not bad news at all.
    Wow.
     
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    like, oops..

    :cheers:

    Good on yer!
     
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    pics pls.

    candy bought.

    omw.
     
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    btw, I noticed that reuben is still alive. nice.

    how's life in elderly home?

    :D
     
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    buahahahaahaha

    quote of the month :D
     
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    Nice girl Biles.
    On a more serious note (and on topic)
    Remember what I was saying about police arresting you only if they have "Probable Cause" to believe that you have commited a crime?"
    A guy from BC was stopped by police about 30 times, finnaly he got tired of being bugged by them and walked away....they arrested him.

    hmmmm.

    If you are not under arrest, you don't have to talk with police at all. You are free to leave. If they arrest you they must have "probable cause" to believe that you have committed a crime. To detain you they must be able to show they have "reasonable suspicion". Now this guy has succesfully sued for wrongful detainment, arrest. etc.

    That's how it works.

    http://www.canada.com/news/Scruffy+successfully+sues+wrongful+arrest/2020926/story.html
     
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    He was profiled. THAT IS CAUSE. It is arguable, yes. Judges usually agree with and back up everything the cop says. ANd they throw enormous resources into 'getting their man.' This time was exceptional and that is why it was in the papers.
     
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    If Sipes was profiled, and profiling provides police with probable cause, he would have lost the case. The judge said Sipes was arrested "WITHOUT ANY GROUNDS AT ALL". Profiling does not give police probable cause.

    West vancouver Police Guilty of:
    False arrest
    False detention
    False imprisonment
     
  12. rudeboy

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    Snipes was arrested 40 times.
    I am not sure what you mean. Profiling in deed and profiling in court speak/report writing, yes, paramilitary types, write lots of reports. Judges read them with great attention. The judge may pr may not have said something about the guy being profiled. Moot.
    The guy was approached too many times and the numbers were skewed and the judge noticed that. He must of asked himselfe, 'This guy has beein detained 44 times? Wait. When I look in all these reports and these here affidavits and these evidences, I can't see your claim that you were not stalking the guy, which you may or may not have, I won't say, but, get outta her, you coppers.'
    Those cops profiled that guy. I don't know if it is doctrine, what we used to call, 'orders.' But the judge and others in that court had to look for justice. Somehow. He has to sort through a lot of bullshit. The number 44 means something to anyone, including the judge. It means something to me.
    If I had been detained as many times as that guy, it would have changed me. I would be affected by the cop's and the system's treatment of me.
    That guy was hunted.
     
  13. Mcloud

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    Sipes was not arrested 40 times. He has been approached and questioned 30 times. Approach and questioned is not the same thing as arrest. Big difference.

    Sipes was arrested once. That was the time he walked away from police, he refused to speak to them after being stopped and questioned 30 times.

    Where are you getting 44 from? 44 viagra pumping through an alligator cock is another thread bud. Calcium playing tricks with your head.

    I will say it again. In order for police to arrest someone they must have probable cause to believe that they have committed or are about to commit a crime. They didn't have probable cause to arrest Sipes. That's why they (the police) have been busted for false arrest. Profiling at best is an excuse for police to stop and talk with someone, it definately is not probable cause. That's why Sipes won the case.

    Do you know the real reason why Sipes was always getting stopped and harrassed by the police? It has nothing to do with profiling or suspicious behavior..It has to do with the psychology of the individual police officers that were bugging him. That's right. Police will harrass people they consider to be "easy targets". They get a kick out of stopping people and asking them questions like "where do you live" etc. Sipes was an easy target, they got on his case 30 times before he finally did what he should have done the third time they stopped him. Since Sipes has sued them, they don't stop him anymore. See? Hard target. Can't be bullied. Negative reinforcement. Cop sees Sipes, Cops thinks "Oh fuck he sues cops, I better stay away"

    Police rely heavily on citizens not knowing their rights or understanding police powers at all. They see people such as Sipes or blacks living in a low income areas and target them. They don't target a man in a suit coming out of a criminal defense attorneys office? See?

    I have been arrested (and physically restrained) by police in a police station and walked out of the police. I don't give a fuck. If you think Sipes has guts or is defiant you ought to see me in action. I have had multiple police forces at my door. There are many cops that will not approach me at all, they know who I am. I made one cops face contort and change color just by looking at him. I have done things and caused reactions that you wil NEVER see on television. You have no Idea.

    Most police officers become cops because they enjoy issuing commands to people. They love to say things like "Let me see your ID", "get your hands out of your pockets", "Let me see your hands", "stand over here, I need to take your picture", etc etc.

    This is why police often own dogs as well. They like to train them to follow commands, "sit", "roll over" all that kind of stuff.



    Always check for masonic badges or hand signals among police they are cocksuckers.

    How to avoid intimidation by police Basic stuff to get you started. FUCK FREEMASONRY.
    watch and learn Note the slight touch of the black officer, this is arrest, the citizen is not free to leave. Most people have no idea about this.

    [​IMG]You say you've come to arrest me, but you're just trying to test me-Pete Townsend
     
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    Sorry, oh lord. I meant detained and should have typed that word instead of the wrong word that I chose. Do you tell us that that guy wasn't hasselled and interfered with? Stop defending something reprohensible, just so you can antagonate me and look like you are defending something like that. I can read the fuckin newsapaper. That guy was held 40 times. or 44... not sure. To be handcuffed, you stupid ass, IS an arrest. It isn't an Arrest, it is an arrest. That guy was interfered with by police. You spout and yalk about things that aren't reality. Cops are the boss. I thought you rant all the time about cops being the boss, noy you are saying, what, that they don't or can't interefer with people and excersice their writ?
    I am tired of this. You will never, ever, ever admit anything. I will. I wish, once, you would. Just fuckin once, Mac.
    I am outta this thread, you have pissed me off pretty bad this time.
    I am not sure I like you anymore.
    Or for now.
     
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  15. looseleaf

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    in whatever country: cops will do what cops want to do.

    Some will follow the procedures right down the line.

    Some will bend the rules. Most cops will take care of their own.

    One can be "in the right" 100%. However if the person on the other side of the badge gives the cop too much shit, the cop is always going to have advantage unless there are unbiased-disinterested parties as testifying witnesses.

    Basically if it's you and the cop and no witnesses or only another cop present, you're screwed.

    Just like the old question:

    What do you do if you're hanging on the cliff edge, a tiger below and a tiger above you?

    Don't get into that situation in the first place.

    First rule of martial arts practitioners outside of the dojo:

    Avoid confrontation. Avoid fighting.

    Mac, you have made your point.

    As a friend let me say this to you:

    Chill the F**K out. Take a deep breath or two, get out of the house. Take a drive in the country. get some fresh air.
    Get laid.

    And just to show you I'm not a hypocrite, I'm going to take my own advise too.

    Have a nice weekend, Bro!

    :cheers:
     
  16. Mcloud

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    Biles I am not stubborn. I admit all kinds of stuff. I posted the story of Sipes because it is an excellent example of how cops CAN BE SUED for false arrest. It is also an excellent example of how police harrass an innocent guy 30 times. I am on the side of Sipes, that's all. I am on your side, the thread you started was about
    "best thing for biles to say to cops" I am trying to help but will shut up now.

    that's why I gave the link to the BC civil liberties union

    that's why I gave the link about Sipes.

    This could be you Biles
    When this happens to you Biles, you will say "Mcloud, maybe you're not so bad"
    This could be your daughter (Notice blood on the floor at 2:10)
     
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    dude, whatever you say to them, whatever you try to do
    if they want to taser/pepper spray you, they will

    and as shown by the cop that beat up that woman, they will get away with it
    he got fired, so what, a normal person would face some time for a beating like that

    the guy with the car was not acting as they wanted and he got a shocking surprise