http://www.daveswarbirds.com/b-17/contents.htm I only do not really know whom to address the link - the "wtg rgreat" whining pilots complaining about "2x20mm and my wing fell off" or the "wtg rgreat" whining pilots complaining about "2x20mm and none of his wings fell off". I think to both kinds. When looking at those photos i mostly feel pity for the guys who found themselves projected into the air along with the debris of the B-17 nose compartment, but couldn't help recalling those ch100 remarks about how many of which calliber to take a wing or tail away. Or not. Anyway, worth looking at, in my oppinion. Also, although having never came across at it in here, i would't be surprised if it has already be posted by someone.
less deadly?? yesterday in my db3, a fw(ffly) d4 in my tail hited me easy with no one single bullet fired by otto's.
To often I will make a high speed (max speed) pass on a buff, at an angle to otto, allowing short targeting time, only to recieve PK in a hail of very accurate fire. On this MA experience I base my opinion...plus the fact that such passes were the bread and butter of RL (surviving) buff interceptors, and surviving gunners admiting that such attacks were all but impossible (barring lucky shots) to successfully (attacker goes BOOM) defend against. Sorry tig it's still my opinion. I never tried the db3 and don't know where the gunners blind spots are...but as an attacker I have found hitting from 6 most times works against db3.
cc bish. I feared the G4Ms a lot until last ToD, when, watching more experienced pilots than me (everybody ), i realized that the way to kill it is from a side-front line, from 45º or 315º, and ottos don't even fire. Of course, attacking from higher altitude. However, sometimes ottos don't fire when they should, as tigrou said, when you're attacked from 6. And they should...
In respect of buff ottos, please everyone remember that there are different settings. Chances are if you attack a buff and he startings ripping you apart from D6, the pilot has set very aggressive ottos. OTOH if you find that you can attack a buff with near impunity, then the ottos are either on default parameter or the pilot has accidentally pressed 'T'
Can we have someday the same otto settings for everyone or having a long and troubled .otto parameter is considered as "flying skill" and let to single pilot as God's gift?
i looked for them, u can change: time of burst tgt away(.otto b+ (value) ),time of busrt tgt close(.otto b++ (value) ), time of pause between 2 burst(.otto b- (value) ). u can't change accuracy and range. with .otto params u will see what changes u can do.
and its not an anying long retype ,oots bla bla bla anyone who put some thought into it has in ato exec like me. on entre to arena chl 100 .ottos b+ 3.0 b++ 4.0 b- .5 chnl 101 .hls chnl 110 .showhits now i never ever have to type these anying yet hlpful comands ever again. they set on entry to arena tip for those who dont use your auto exec for .commands the are type 1 time and on for good.
I know what you mean muf-lo It would be better if otto parameters could not be set imo, as their lethality then becomes unbelievable. Better if everyone has to use the default settings imo.
shruges... its not fair that i can have good ottos and everyones else is stuck with very low default seeting. id attack every buff as if settings are as mine so i dont mind telling perspective enemys. just trying to lvl playing field. buff like jammys who also uses .otto comands use to piss me of..."why my ottos not that fucking good?" just sharing results of my resuearch into why?
I agree with you on this Gryphn. Otto parameters are a perfectly legal and usable part of the game. But, having said that, it would be better if maybe the default was upgraded a little, and everyone had to use that. Very few people know that buff parameters can be set, and even less know how to set them correctly, so it's not really fair.
Since I reinstalled WB, I just (three days ago) started using otto other than standard setting. I have so far tried a few different settings, and it depends on what you fly and how you fly it, really. A setting that rocks in JU87 don't necessarily work good in LI2 and so on. (hi -rdm-- ) So wtf, the settings are there, you can change them (almost) ad infintum (fine word to say "A lot" ) and at different places you can find info about how the settings work. Well, a long time I did not use aggressive otto. And I payed for it with being killed 80-90% of the bomberflights. Now otto is agressive, it's better he use the ammo than we (me and otto) go down with all ammo left...
Yeah it is, but isnt it something, as a dot command, that should be plainly available to all pilots? How did you find out about it? How did I find out about it more to the point? We all found out the same way, word of mouth. For new players, that takes a helluva long time. Its very unfair imo.
every player has warbirds.hlp, every player has newotto.txt and ottohost.txt. of course, it's not fair when player that doesn't want to read know lesser than the player that is reading. ouch. fighter pilot must be inquisitive and must be capable to make at least elementary info search.
Those only tell you how to set the parameters, not what the potential effect of each setting would be or the optimum setting. Its also not exactly the most user-friendly help ive ever seen.
