cargo planes?

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by -exec-, Jul 11, 2010.

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what should we do with transport?

  1. 1940 Li-2/7.62mm, 1943 Li-2/12.7mm for all sides

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  2. save Ju 52. reds will have Li-2/7.62mm (reds chill out)

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  3. save Ju 52. reds will have Li-2/12.7mm (golds chill out)

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  4. 1940 C-47A/L2D3 without guns, 350km/h; and 1940 Li-2/12.7mm 290km/h

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  5. exec is a woodpecker

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  1. -exec-

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    salut!

    having some deficit of aeroplane slots, and considering continuous flame "their cargo-plane is better than our", and remembering Showa L2D, we suggest to erase Ju 52/3m.

    instead we will have:

    1940-01 Li-2 production 1941 with 7.62mm ShKAS as all versions of Douglas for all sides.

    1943-01 Li-2 production 1943 with 12.7mm UBT for all sides.

    we will not provide more than two slots for cargo-planes.
     
  2. allpay

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    Better to have equal 1 cargo plane for both sides is enough imo. Maybe 1943 LI2/12.7 mm both sides only. I prefer 1 more jabo fighter instead of next cargo plane.


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  3. demian

    demian Well-Known Member

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    agree with allpay
     
  4. looseleaf

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    ooooooh that woodpecker option !!!!!

    :D


    How about both sides get the Cant 506:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CANT_Z.506

    "...General characteristics

    * Crew: 5
    * Length: 19.24 m (63 ft 1.5 in)
    * Wingspan: 26.50 m (86 ft 11.3 in)
    * Height: 7.45 m (24 ft 5.3 in)
    * Wing area: 86.26 m² (928.53 ft²)
    * Empty weight: 8,750 kg (19,300 lb)
    * Max takeoff weight: 12,705 kg (28,010 lb)
    * Powerplant: 3× Alfa Romeo 126 RC.34 radial engines, 560 kW (750 hp) each

    Performance

    * Maximum speed: 350 km/h (190 kn, 220 mph)
    * Range: 2,000 km (1,100 nmi, 1,200 mi)
    * Service ceiling: 7,000 m (23,000 ft)

    Armament

    * Guns:
    o 1 × 12.7 mm (0.50 in) Breda SAFAT machine gun
    o 3 × 7.7 mm (0.303 in) machine guns
    * Bombs:
    o 1,200 kg (2,600 lb) of general ordnance or
    o 1 × 800 kg (1,800 lb) torpedo
    ..."


    So both sides get: float plane, troop plane,bomber and torpedo plane, gun ship.

    Just give it a little more top speed.

    (or maybe a Cant Z.1018... :) ) http://comandosupremo.com/cantz1018.html



    OK OK ,well then "historically" the SM.79 would be the most logical:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_SM.79


    Yeah, it would be a lot of work, but that's what I would wish for.

    Otherwise I tend to agree with Dem and allplay; the cargo/trooper situation does not seem too high a priority.

    Except for The General of course !

    :cheers:
     
  5. -exec-

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    probably impossible.
    or else i'd play F1M2 ;)

    http://forum.wbfree.net/forums/showthread.php?t=38095
    "New Airplanes
    Savoia-Marchetti S.M.79 series II "Sparviero" – Italian medium and torpedo bomber
    <...>
    Ju 52/3m g7e for future Savoia-Marchetti S.M.79 series II "Sparviero""

    ok. will count
     
  6. Asmumy

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    There goes my JU ='((((((((
     
  7. looseleaf

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    Tell it to the general.....

    :(
     
  8. FranzAugust

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    Ju52 for both sides.
     
  9. vasco

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    if only the general lived to this day to see Li2 totally dominating the world. now u can get rid of 190's and 109's, Li2 patriotic plane is a lot better
     
  10. mumble

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    Why don't we just get rid of Ki-27/I-153? I-153 is a warpy bastard anyway, and Ki-27 was there to counter I-153. (Yes, we've had a flame war on this earlier, but how often do you see them in flight? Hmmm??? :mafia:)
     
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    Ju52 for golds and Li2 for reds, both without guns. That's all.
     
  12. -exec-

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    final decision:

    1940 Ju 52/3m for golds with MG 131 and extended sectors of fire
    1940 Li-2 for reds with 12.7mm UB

    and some experiments of -fas- with sectors of 52 and loads of both within beta pre-release.
     
  13. joseh-

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    Why?
    Poll result gave Li-2 to all... :kruto:
     
  14. -exec-

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    and russian-langauge poll?
     
  15. Asmumy

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    Great!

    Edit: With Commandos, right?
     
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    both will have equal commandos/mortar, of course.
     
  17. joseh-

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    Sorry sir, didn't searched for Russian Poll :shuffle:
     
  18. tazman88

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    just give C47 to both sides
     
  19. graatz

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    I might be absent here and there, but methinks it's The General :nono: