Polishness

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by demian, Apr 28, 2008.

  1. Fucketeer

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    Poles rock.

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  2. looseleaf

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    Sorry about that. It was a spelling error. You know some of us have real jobs out there in reality land and soemtimes there's not enough time to proof read everything.

    Yes, "Gabby" is an American of Polish ancestry. Here's a quote from Wiki:

    Gabreski followed closely reports on the Battle of Britain and the role played in it by Polish RAF squadrons, especially by the legendary No. 303 Polish Fighter Squadron. He became concerned that the US did not have many experienced fighter pilots. This gave Gabreski an idea: since Polish squadrons had proved to be capable within the RAF and since he himself was of Polish origin and spoke Polish, he offered to serve as a liaison officer to the Polish squadrons to learn from their experience. The idea was approved and he left Hawaii for Washington D.C. in September 1942, where he received a promotion to Captain.

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    In October, Gabreski reported to the Eighth Air Force's VIII Fighter Command in England, at that time a rudimentary new headquarters. After a lengthy period of inactivity, he tried to arrange duty with the 303 Squadron, but that unit had been taken out of action for a period of rest. Instead he was attached to the 315th Polish "Deblinski" Fighter Squadron at RAF Northolt in January 1943.

    Gabreski flew the new Spitfire Mark IX. He and his fellow pilots flew patrol sweeps over the Channel. He first encountered Luftwaffe opposition on February 3, when a group of Fw 190s jumped his squadron. Too excited to make a "kill", Gabreski learned that he had to keep calm during a mission, a lesson that served him well later in the war. He later spoke with great esteem about the Polish pilots and lessons he learned from them. In all Gabreski flew 20 missions with the Poles...."

    Check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Gabreski

    Any case the point of my response and question to demian and the 302, was that whenever you assume a name of a certain ethnic group or a group of any historical reference, those that take their name must live up to a certain level of integrity and honor.
    They must reject all cheats and all un-honorable actions. They must live to a higher code than any random player or player group.

    Read the history of those men that I made reference and they should live up to those standards.

    I went to see the monuments at Monte Cassino and read about Gen. Anders and the Polish volunteers.

    In Rome I worked at Via Pulsudski and then looked up the history of the man. Quite honorable.

    So I am hoping those who assume the name, live up to that name and do not dishonor it.

    That's all.
     
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  4. whodaphool

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    Mind your manners little boy.

    You really don't want me to come to your house and give you and your daddy an ass-whippin'.
     
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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=PY45DkaP9Ls :rose:
     
  6. spuint

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    looseleaf
    what do you really know about pilsudski?
    and why do i have feeling you meant pulawski :D
     
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    Po..what?
     
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    Porn.
     
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    Da, but they do not share the same priviledges... Just decoys for the greater polish conspriracy plot.....

    :D
     
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    spuint nice selfdrawn picture :p :D
     
  14. looseleaf

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    Sorry, I do not speak Polish, except for a very few words.

    I only know of one spelling, in the states and in Italy it is spelled Pilsudski.

    As in here: http://www.polishamericancenter.org/Pilsudski.htm

    or at the United Nations library/archive:

    http://www.unog.ch/library/archives/lon/library

    or:

    http://info-poland.buffalo.edu/web/history/hist_persons/pilsudski/link.shtml
     
  15. looseleaf

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    That's KOWASLSKI !!!!

    From Vanishing Point. Hemi 'Cuda with Super Soul on the radio.
     
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  17. spuint

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    ok, if you say so, i was pretty sure u wanted to mention this guy :D

    and dont worry about that map franz posted, in poland children are thought to be proud of that part of the history
    in my opinion its much better to be proud of that time in history, than the time that map i posted was from ;)


    and btw, since were on the topic, more or less, do you know why polish 303rd squadron is called "kosciuszkowski"?
     
  18. looseleaf

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    Cool.

    Glad it was not referring to a character in the first season of
    Star Trek 2n gen.

    If you were really old there was an old TV show in the USA the third mate of the Seaview, the super submarine, in "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea". He was called "Kowalski". The poor bastard was always first to get his ass kicked in any fight. The captain would shout out: "Kowaslski, Quick!" and he would jump-in fearlessly attacking the sea creature or evil alien or horrible monster with the first thing at hand, usually a giant crescent wrench or fire extinguisher.
    it got to the point to be a call to action when kids would play any kind of war game or any group game.

    No matter what stage of game play, someone would shout-out "Kowalski, Quick!" and as everyone wanted to be him, everyone jumped and attacked the nearest living thing. "Kowalski, Quick!" were words of action to the kids back then.

    No , tell us about kosciuszkowski.
     
  19. FranzAugust

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    I still await good rep for 'my' map.
     
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    Keep waiting FranzAugust- won't get any (neither good or bad) for a total off-topic.
    Everyone knows that Poland was twice divided by it's peace-loving neighbours- Germany and Russia. The first division took place in 1795, and (excluding the Napoleonic period) it's effects lasted till 1918, when the peace-loving nation of Germans was forced to sign armistice after four years of love-exchange along it's eastern and western borders. The latter one was the direct result of a military and political aliance between gentlemen called Hitler and Stalin, and took place after September 1st, 1939 (Stalin needed a bit longer to mobilise, so his troops only started the race to meet their German friends on September 17th [but still managed to capture 2/3 of Poland's territory]).
    Here is a small photo of general Heinz Guderian greeting his Soviet counterpart kombrygadier Siemion Kriwoszein- the first one will later drive the german offensive deep into Caucasus in 1942, the latter one will command 1st Krasnogard Corps in Berlin operation in 1945.
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