Remove La5fn

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by gil---, May 3, 2010.

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Ban La-5fn for 1.67r2

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. gil---

    gil--- FH Beta Tester

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    Remove La5fn until 1.68 out.
    It is not necessary for balance, it doesn't carry any unique role and it is obvious bug.
    It was fun to use for some time a plane with perfect handling, ability to almost vertical climb (20m/s at 150 km/h), 580 km/h max speed on deck and 16s sustained turn with 100% fuel (similar to A6m5b, but at higher speed). But it turns big and interesting period of war to kind of circus :dura: .
    P,S, 14s with 20% fuel.

    Убрать Ла-5фн до выхода 1.68
    Редам и без нее есть на чем летать и сейчас это один сплошной баг.
    Было забавно попользовать самолет с идеальной управляемостью, способный климбить хоть вертикально (20м/с на 150 кмч), делающий 580 кмч у земли и вираж за 16 с с полым баком (примерно как зера, только на большей скорости).
    Но вообще-то это чушь и пиздец. :dura:
     
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  2. looseleaf

    looseleaf Well-Known Member

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    Are you suggesting leaving an empty slot?

    If no, what plane do you suggest instead?
     
  3. gil---

    gil--- FH Beta Tester

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    As i understand, adding of new plane requires new FH launcher, so for now i suggest just to remove it from rps. As i know, new flight model for La family is in progress for 1.68, so its slot will not be empty there.
     
  4. gandhi

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  5. Funtom

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    Yes, 5FN is fucked, but to remove it? Just use your brains when u fly....
     
  6. looseleaf

    looseleaf Well-Known Member

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    Good job al, you are taking the flaming cunt behavior to an industrial level.

    :D :D :D
     
  7. -al---

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    you think I'm gandhi?

    oh bhoy...
     
  8. -exec-

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    his proposal is to forbid taking off la-5fn before 1.68 is released.
     
  9. gil---

    gil--- FH Beta Tester

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    What does it needed for?
    I can understand some steps away from realism made for gameplay improvement, but this is a triple jump from reality, that makes gamplay worse, so what for?
     
  10. Funtom

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    Just use BnZ, don't be an idiot like the others TnBers.... Then is 190A6 & 109g2/g6 enough. By the way- you can think that this is a "simulation" of red air supremacy :)
     
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  11. allpay

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    remove La7 :D
     
  12. gil---

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    Yes, surely i can take 190A6, make a cup of tea, climb to 6km and look for blind cons. It will work against sleeping pilots, or novices.
    But that is what i'm talking about, game loose great varity of possible tactics and turns into hit and run for golds and into shooting gallery with ducks for reds.
    And again, what for should the game be worse, if it can be better? I could understand it if La were that kind of plane in real life, it would have some interest in that case, but even the most patriotic sourses don't tell anything about 14 seconds turn.
    — It's madness!!!
    — It is LAAAA AAAAAA !!! :dark:

    Imho, La7 is less bug than fn is.
     
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  13. Funtom

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    Strongly disagree with u, BnZ is not only against novices and pilots having fun on wc in that time, you don't need 6km and BnZ is not only for vertical flying. Just fly over and through furball and you'll be ok and with a lot of kills. 2-3km are often more than enough if you have good SA. And you lost SA mainly when you start with that idiotic turns...
    Yes, this game could be better, but.... haha :-D

    Agree, that La5FN is more dangerous than La7.
     
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    I meant only the case of 109g6 or 190A6 vs La5fn.
    And surely even La5fn even with good pilot can be killed in furball by 190, flying through, i don't say it's impossible at all to fight against it, i just think this model in its current realization doesn't suit the game, claiming to be kind of simulator. Like it was with 1-st incarnation of j2m and 12gun hurr.
     
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    I think La5FN is good plane in the bad time, in previous RPS was against 190A8 and it was ok. So maybe only a lil change in RPS and everything will be almost ok again :)
     
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    I think La5fn is modelled incorrectly, (its turning ability and low speed handling), but moving it to feb 44 (G14's date) could be a compromice.
     
  17. looseleaf

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    When do you expect 1.68 to come out?
     
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    As i know, it is in progress, but when it is ready - depends on fas, exec and others' free time and enthusiasm, so i have no idea about.
    As for me, i will not suffer without our fn model, so i would vote "YES" even if i new, that it will not come out ever. :) I like La, i flew it in 1.66, when it was crasy spinning brick and i think that La5f and La7 models are enough not to miss fn too much. Each of them will be best low-mid alt fighters for long period.
     
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  19. looseleaf

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    Until the 1.68 version is out I don't think it matters too much if the 5fn is grounded.

    Maybe having the La5 and the La7 with the 3x20mm Berezin option would be the better compromise.

    That would free one slot for something more interesting.
     
  20. gandhi

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    Hmmm... I wonder what you mean by "something more interesting"...

    :D