srry, why should anyone from LC get banned? is this real war here?, LC vs rest of world? are we cheater? get we the pest? have we all AIDS? are we naziґs? pls malino tell me any reason? pls tell it, regards mosche
Maybe because of LC's position on this list: http://forum.wbfree.net/forums/showpost.php?p=207578&postcount=1 Just a list. Just a gentelman's agreement... but Your squad refused to be part of it. once again... maybe
srry frog, that is a/your reason to bann a member or our whole squad here in the game? me understand that right yes?
Mosche the guys posted many screens showing midi using attach command to cheat, is that not enought prove?? IMO if tigrao got 2 weeks ban midi should get no less than 3 weeks (if you really want to be unfair because he really diserves a ban for an unlimited period of time).
The Kellogg-Briand Pact was a treaty which stated that all who signed would never go to war and would instead seek peaceful solutions. Australia, Belgium, Canada, Czechoslovakia, France, Germany, Great Britain, India, the Irish Free State, Italy, Japan, New Zealand, Poland, South Africa, the United States and others, totaling 62 countries, all signed the treaty. This treaty was ratified between 1927 and 1929. We all know how successful it was... No agreement succeeds without a means of enforcement. It doesn't mean people shouldn't try, though.
i'm sorry, for not following this discussion. i have a lot of problems to understand the discussion. maybe you can help me here or on private. please give me a link to this statement. what does "teamkilling" mean to you? 1. killing with the help of a teammate. 2. killing organized teamplay. as far as i understand midi, he confess, that he took revenche by himself by jumping to a tank of the other side. killshooter for jeeps/tanks would be a solution? Can you please give a chronical order? I thought, tigrao was at first killing a low li2-raid. and i thought, that nobody was attached to tigrao, before he was killed above 7 km. what is a alpha-male? midi seems to be a young player with lots of flight-time. but he seems to have not much experience with forums and english. i will help him, to reactivate his old forum-account. i really don't think, that anybody from LC asked for a punishment of tigrao: when the discussion about the ".attach" araises again, we used this discussion to mention, that the LC is all the times a victim of this command. many of us are angry, that there is no progress for such a long time. the same to the spying: if there is a whitelist of allowed players, instead of a blacklist with banned callsigns, admins could punish much better. if admins know, which email is using which callsign, we would like to subscribe to the agreement of mixer. but as rapier answered, we know, that we can't control our squadmates. i don't think, that it was correct to ban "-midi-". can somebody give me a link to this announcement? but this seems to be one reason, that midi doesn't want to say something in this forum. here is a little translation from his german forum:
hereby i inform that -midi- was banned almost the same time as tigrao (difference is about 24h due to procedure specifics). BUGS NOT YET FIXED IS NOT AN ILDUNGENCE FOR ABUSING. attach is a buggy command. aike is busy irl to either fix it or disable. seems to me that -midi- doesn't want to explain to public what did he done in this situation. but from my p.o.v. both are guilty for arbitrariness. i hope both will calm down until 14/04.
I think this is a correct solution - banning both or none. Bad is another thing - the game allows both: attach and change side or using a second computer and firing with a tank on members of the own side. If all pilots use all possibilities in this game in a fair way, we shouldn`t have a problem with it. Agreements to be fair are worthless, because there is no control possible.
@heme We had 2 squad members removed for spying... without them being accused of spying publically or whatsoever... if there's noone to force some rules here individuals are obliged to control themselves... and the responsibility of squad commanders is to controll their "minions". So if You say no controll is possible, you're wrong... it is possible... as long as the community will react to abuses and impose some voluntary rules on itself (like the mixer's agreement).
good example. because of these eliminations, i expect, that nobody of your teammates tell you, that he is spying. now tell me, how is your squad-commander controlling his minions?
IMO it doesnt need control Maletin, just goodwill on all sides. Yes, people will still abuse it, but not at squadron level if everyone has signed up. The agreement also relies on squadron COs taking action if someone from their squad has been caught spying. Dont you agree that it is better than nothing at all? At the very least, it sent a message to people about spying.
the two were caught by senior squad members either in tower of the opposite side or just (in one case of a french member of 302) admitted spying... they left without any publicity... as there was no need for it. The case was clear- our squadron has internal regulations and these rules are not to be broken without consequences.
a good solution exec, that is fair and now it will be calm down in forum too very consequent frog, should give example for other leaders