Which Japanese bomber to add?

Discussion in 'Bombers' started by HoHun, Oct 3, 2005.

  1. mitsuo

    mitsuo Active Member

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    P1Y2-S

    Plane : P1Y2-S 'Kyokko'
    Allied Codename: Aurora
    Type : Night Fighter. Was equipped with radar
    Manufacturer :
    Initial Flight : 1944
    Crew : 3
    Engine: 2x Mitsubishi MK4T-A Kasei 25a
    Horse Power : 1850 HP = take - off / 1.680 HP at 2.600 mts / 1.500 hp at 6.600 mts
    Maximun speed : 547 Km/H at 5.900 mt
    Armament : One flexible rear-firing 20 mm Type 99 cannon and two oblique-firing 20 mm Type 99 cannon
    Bombs load : none
    Span: 20mts
    Lenght : 15 mts
    Height : 4.30mts
    Wing surface : 55 sq mt
    Weight empty : 7.800 kg
    Weight loaded : 10.500 kg
    Power loading : 2.8 kg/hp
    Service Ceiling : 9.560 mts
    Range : 5.370 km
     
  2. mitsuo

    mitsuo Active Member

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    H8K2

    Plane : Kawanishi H8K2
    Allied Codename : Emily
    Type : long-range maritime reconnaissance flying-boat
    Quantity : 112 units
    Manufacturer : Kawanishi Kokuki
    Initial Flight : 1943
    Crew : 10
    Engine : 4xMitsubishi MK4Q Kasei 22
    Horse Power : 1850 HP
    Maximun Speed : 467 Km/H
    Armament : 5x 20mm type 99 model 1 and 3x7.7mm type 97
    Bombs load : 2x800kg + 8x250kg or 16x60kg or 2x457mm torpedos
    Span : 38 mts
    Length : 28.13 mts
    Height : 9.15 mts
    Wing surface : 160.00 sq mt
    wing load : 153 kg/sq mt
    weight empty : 18.380 kg
    Weight loaded : 24.500 kg
    Service Ceiling : 8.850 mts
    Range : 7.152 km
     
  3. mitsuo

    mitsuo Active Member

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    Ki-21-IIb

    Plane : Ki-21-IIb
    Allied codename : Sally
    Type : Heavy Bomber
    Flight Time : 1940 to 1944
    Quantity : 351
    Manufacturer : Nakajima
    Crew : 7
    Engine : 2x Mitsubishi Ha-101 type 100
    Horse Power : 1.500 HP
    Maximun Speed : 486 km/h at 4.720 mts
    Armament : 1 × 12,7 mm Type 1 trainable in the dorsal turret
    1 × 7,7 mm Type 89 trainable forward-firing in the nose position
    1 × 7,7 mm Type 89 trainable rearward-firing in the ventral position
    1 × 7,7 mm trainable rearward-firing in the tail position
    2 × 7,7 mm type 89 trainable lateral-firing, one in each of the beam positions

    Bombs Load : up to 1.000 kg of bombs
    Span : 22.5mt
    Lenght : 16 mt
    Height : 4.35 mt
    Wing Surface : 69.6 sq mt
    Wing Load :
    Weight Empty : 9.710 kg
    Weight Loaded : 10.565 kg
    Service Ceiling : 10.000 mt
    Range : 2.704 km
     
  4. Ritter gossie

    Ritter gossie Well-Known Member

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    ich schreibs mal auf deutsch kurz meine meinung:

    B7A geht nich weil zu wenig gebaut :( sonst das ideale - siehe unten

    die ganzen Ki´s bringen nix da gold zum jeweiligen zeitpunkt bessere bomber hat
    - ich entscheide immer nach bombload und gipfelhöhe + steigleistung bei bombern

    die G8N wirds nie geben weil nur prototypen - wäre aber supi ding

    meine entscheidung also:

    D4Y "Judy"

    über 2000 maschinen + gute geschwindigkeit - bombload scheiße wenig ( eventuell auf fh 1x500kg + 2x50kg ? )

    mein argument dafür:
    gold ist bei offensiven trägereinsätzen klar unterlegen - zumindest wenn f4u bzw. f6f draußen sind - ein sehr schneller stuka kann da wenigstens ein bissel abhilfe schaffen - gerade im kampf gegen jeeps und tanks wo die ammis mit raketen um sich hauen können

    gossie ( Ritter der Offensive )
     
  5. HoHun

    HoHun FH Beta Tester

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    Hi Gossie,

    >die ganzen Ki?s bringen nix da gold zum jeweiligen zeitpunkt bessere bomber hat

    Well, my idea is to provide the Japanese with enough aircraft so that it becomes possible to have an entirely Japanese RPS with no German aircraft at all. Even if the German bomber would be better, they won't be available.

    >die G8N wirds nie geben weil nur prototypen - w?re aber supi ding

    The G8N would only be good for late war anyway, so it couldn't help the early RPS.

    Regards,

    Henning (HoHun)
     
  6. jotaceTOGA

    jotaceTOGA Well-Known Member

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  7. ppedott_vibora

    ppedott_vibora Well-Known Member

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    Again, in order to give a real chance to be used:

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  8. gunitz

    gunitz Well-Known Member

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    the KI21II is a good one, but i prefer the ki67 hyriu, but this is late war too, is for early war, i prefer KI21 IIb
     
  9. -exec-

    -exec- FH Consultant

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    not ki-49-II? ;)
     
  10. gunitz

    gunitz Well-Known Member

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    yes KI49II donryu is better
     
  11. airfax

    airfax Well-Known Member

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    @hohun: any progress in the jap bomber thing?