You all tell (and are told) a lot of Bullshit

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by heartc, Mar 2, 2007.

  1. biles

    biles Well-Known Member

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    The USA wasn't fighting a duel. It was war.
    Nations use their strengths and attack an enemy's weaknesses.
    USA did fine.
     
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  2. FranzAugust

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    USAAF fucking vulchers

    + german admin didnt allow 262 as fighter plane
     
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  3. Red Ant

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    The Germans rather dweebishly rolled from fields under fire. They got what they deserved. :duel:
     
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  4. gandhi

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    "If we see that Germany is winning, we ought to help Russia, and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way we let them kill as many as possible." -harry truman
     
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    LMAOOO good one :mafia:
     
  6. biles

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    ...although I don't want to see Hitler victorious under any circumstances....

    NY Times June 24, 1941
     
  7. looseleaf

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    yeah, too bad the admins at the time didn't reset the fuel div , dar and jeep acks.

    yeah too bad Hilter didn't believe the reports from German spies about Willow Run..... at the height of production a B-24 bomber was built ONE AN HOUR ! (1944)

    ....all those American planes being "quakers" and all......


    80% of the German army traveled and was supplied by HORSES !

    100% American soldiers traveled by US and Canadian built trucks and tanks, airplanes and "liberty ships".....(being built up to 3 per day!) (10,000 tonnes cargo ships)
     
  8. RolandGarros

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    according to lindbergh's diary, those willow run planes were at least initially, of particularly poor quality. good thing for usaaf they never got the 'flaming coffin' reputation that first world war liberty engine DH-4s got...
     
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  9. FranzAugust

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    Will looseleaf explode, if I tell him that Mustang ran with an english engine?
     
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  10. biles

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    Packard was an English company? :rolleyes:
     
  11. Snakeye

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    Maybe Packard-built, but it was still a Merlin ;)
     
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    Hehe. Never mind
    I don't think this was british:
    NACA 6-series laminar flow airfoil

    In an alternate universe, I could picture the USA sending the mustang to war without the Merlin. I know the Allison v-17xx wasn't up to par...

    Question:
    Did the USA have a decent inline v12. I mean, were there no ready alternatives to the Allisons that were used?
    Once Packard started making the merlin, there didn't seem to be a need, as the need was filled. Wartime production was governed and controlled, so machine R+D I would bet was also limited and guided by Washington. Except of course privately funded R+D which remained as it was before war measures.

    My favorite aero engine was the PW R2800. Not as glamorous as merlin but was sure a powerhouse. WOnderful machines and, like the merlin, are still around.
     
  13. RolandGarros

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    lol its nice to see a politics argument devolve to a aviation thread for once
     
  14. looseleaf

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    No I will not explode. I know very well.


    Rolls Royce built the Merlin engine.

    Later Packard built the Merlin engine under license.

    P51 originally came with Allisons and were under powered, also much smaller displacement....
     
  15. looseleaf

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    Lindy wrote a lot of things in his dairy.... B24 used PW radial engines NOT V12s.


    The first series of cable controlled B 24 were a real challenge to fly.

    Full of bombs the cables stretched tight and the controlls were VERY sensative...

    ...then as bomds dropped and cables slacked, controll input had to double triple and they were a hand-full as some pilots told me.....

    or maybe it was the other way around...it was a long time ago, but you get the idea I hope....

    Later versions with boosted hydraulic controls and easier to use starters and fuel management made for a very good heavy bomber.
     
  16. FranzAugust

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    fu flamer. you have no arguments :D
     
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    All you ever wanted or never wanted to know about the Allison V-12 engines:


    http://www.unlimitedexcitement.com/Miss US/Allison V1710 Engine.htm


    Check it out!
     
  18. grobar

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    etc. etc.

    you all seem to have a very clear and tangible grasp of "freedom". it just scares the bejeesus out of me!
    i thought philosophers are still debating what is freedom and is it possible at all?
    and somehow i've rarely heard this word used at all by the majority of people i've met out there coming from all around the world, not news presenters, us presidents or us/future us citizens. those others mostly thought in terms of friendship, love, family, tranquillity, food, money maybe even bribes, harassment, calamity, distress, arson, immolation... (yes, i've had housemates who have witnessed such) ... but never in terms of "freedom".


    ++++

    good luck in joining the Peacemakers! maybe one day we will meet in the desert, when I ve grown a full beard.


    for now I just post a balancing pro-terrorist thread! :D
     
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  19. gandhi

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    p51d should be 100 kmh faster then it is

    ok

    ready...

    set...

    GO!
     
  20. grobar

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    Ah, one sane post in this thread! Thank you!


    lol, i've seen these! Mine had some stringy instruments like small tables, some vertical some horizontal - and when she pulled a string it made "yieooowww"!


    I liked it! (maybe not for every night)
    You need to develop some sensitivity to music first though.
    ps: they were koreans

    Tomorrow I am going to visit my japanese friend in the gardens behind campus. He is feeding birds there for a second week now and feeling quite lonely. He promised me a bowl with that lovely green tea his wife made last time in their house!
     
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