salut all! can anyone hint me where to obtain info on Do 217 E-3? any help appreciated, bomb kits, machinegun ammo, climb, speed charts etc. including BMW 801 MA. thanks in advance!
ok once more ... today i got response from Dornier-Stiftung - i hope i can deliver some information during this week http://www.dornier-stiftung.de/
for E-serie i found 2 bomb-bays 2500kg bombs intern 1500kg bombs extern 8x50kg in second bomb-bay ( maybe more ) both bomb-bays able to carry SC1000 (1000kg-bomb ) don´t forget E-2 carry 2 x Hs293A under wings maybe you need more infos? E-2 had normaly fixed MG151/20 under nose or MGFF front otto on front most E-models use 1 or 2 x MG81Z in heck i had spezific drafts for K1 or N2 if you need for bomb-bays or gunners or something else
Pls check this out. http://one.fsphost.com/strafe/ I uploaded some files in pdf to easy view. Those pictures was taken from: 1- Dornier Do 217; Damian Majsak Zbigniew Krzysiak; 1996 2- Salomot bombowy Dornier Do-217; ISBN 83-09036-X; Benedikt Kempski 3- Third one... sorry I can't write names due to russian language
bad news from my side i found a very cooperative person in the dornier archiv, but nothing to find about e3 and bmw801ma sry today i receive a paper mail from dornier with some info about e1 and e2 with 801a including performance plots and wappen settings hope it will help u can find this all on my link below the signature most in german language *)edit: insert direct links 4 download summary do217+bmw801a do217_kennblatt do217_baubeschreibung+ammo+wappens @exec the person from the archiv ask me why e3 + bmw801ma? would u pls explain the reasons to make this choice?
imho: 1)emil is most convenient for the game, it is right between 88a-4 and 177a-3 by performance, firepower, and date. 2)e-1 is not numerous and not representative 3)e-2 has dive brakes that would be required by some geek for the game, despite noone ever used them and dive brakes were often removed from combat planes. 4)e-3 is the very similar to e-2, but officially without dive brakes. so the question is performance of 217emil without dive brakes. as for bmw, i read that it was mostly 801ma for 217e. or not? p.s. and without rockets which impossible for this game. amongst 177a versions anton-3 was selected for the reason of higher load than a-5 and absense of rockets.
@exec thx 4 explaining i am not an expert in history of do217, but i think if there no information of bmw801ma in the dornier archive, than this type of 801 was not so often used do u mean i am too late with my infos
that message was "where were turrets?" or similar, and i asked it before downloading all the stuff given by _strafe_. but is you have description of fire sectors and number of rounds, post it please
as for absense of 801MA, it's hard to say. bmw 801ML was used too (different airscrew). so which engine was used for E-3? W.Green says that E-4 was powered by BMW 801 C. also E-4 had cord-cutters against aerostates.
Summary (guns) A-Stand/nore position: 1 MG15 / 375 rounds - 140 Ikara-Kugel B-Stand/top left/back: 2 MG15 / 1240 rounds (E-1) 1 MG15 / 1240 rounds (E-2) B-Stand/top right/back: same as left side B-Stand/top back: 1 MG 15 / 750 rounds - LL-G (E-1) 1 MG 131 / 1000 rounds - DL 131/1 (E-2) C-Stand/bottom back: 1 MG 15 / 750 rounds - 140 Ikara-Kugel (E-1) 1 MG 131 / 800 rounds - WL 131 (E-2) Pilot: 1 MG 151 / 250 rounds optional: MK 101 / 90 rounds (E-2) source: kennblatt sheet 6
Summary (bombs) 800kg (E-1 + E-2) 16x 50kg 1000kg (E-1 + E-2) 4x 250kg 1500kg (E-1 + E-2) 2x 250kg, 2x 500kg 1500kg (E-1 + E-2) 3x 500kg 2000kg (E-1 + E-2) 2x 1000kg 1400kg (E-1 + E-2) 1x 1400kg 1700kg (E-1 + E-2) 1x 1700kg 1800kg (E-1 + E-2) 1x 1800kg 800kg (E-1 + E-2) 1x Topedo 2000kg (E-2) 4x 500kg 3000kg (E-2) 3x 1000kg 3000kg (E-2) 2x 1000kg, 2x 500kg 2800kg (E-2) 2x 1400kg additional: 500kg (E-2 under wings) 2x 250kg 1000kg (E-2 under wings) 2x 500kg 2000kg (E-2 under wings) 2x 1000kg source: kennblatt sheet 6+7
climb performance / top speed weight 16,5 t 5 km in 34 min - top speed 405 kmh @ 2,0 km / 402 kmh @ 5,0 km weight 15,5 t ? - top speed 430 kmh @ 5,0 km weight 14,5 t 6 km in 32 min - top speed 472 kmh @ 5,0 km weight 12,0 t 6 km in 13 min - ? weight 11,3 t ? - top speed 528 kmh @ 5,0 km weight 10,6 t ? - top speed 530 kmh @ 4,7 km (no payload) max ceiling 10 t = 9 km 17,5 t = 6,5 km for points in between u can use a linear relationship *) source: do217 + bmw 801 a (performance plots from Rechlin with E-1 and wooden blades) (i) metal blades: additional 10 kmh and additional 0,5 m/s climb performance **) source: kennblatt sheet 9 max supportet speed E-2 700 kmh (i) @ 190 kmh flaps will be withdrawn automaticly
muß man dir ja fast eine liebeserklärung machen redw nur das mit dem b-stand links und rechts kapier ich nich ganz findest du noch was zu den 2 x MG81Z im heckstand die wohl oft nachgerüstet wurden? ich kann es kaum noch erwarten mit der do217 feindliche schiffsverbände anzugreifen DIVE BRAKES !!!