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Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by demian, Jul 26, 2008.

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    that's a more comfortable topic for our talk


    hurricane 2B made only by replacing 4 hispanos by 12 machineguns.
    anyways, will forward to developers

    we have no information on turn of j2m3, except theoretical calculations
    showing circa 17-18 sec (better than ki-84, btw)

    btw, ien recentrly made an error in wb2008 aerodynamics and stucked upon 15.5s of j2m3 too :D
    brothers in troubles

    they are useful
     
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    Bf 109T usefull? How? There were less than 100 total and I'm not sure if they were ever used from a CV in combat.
    If you're going to hold a slot for that type reflecting such a low number produced, then you should seriously consider the 115 with 20mm as there were 200 made and used in combat, consider the P-63 as there were about 2,400 used in combat and that Russian designers worked at Bell to produce it. you should consider the G55 instead of the 202/205 as the Luftwaffe had plans approved to have 5,000 units made to replace the 109. Also consider the 4X20mm F4U as well.
    Now THOSE could be useful!

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    so, you suggest to remove bf 109 t-1.
    it was introduced to make cv2cv operations more playable.
    ok. if we can name bf 109 t-1 as useless, i guess we can free slot of seafire too, leaving cv2cv operations to the only major players like usa and japan.
    correct?
     
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    Correct. That would be my vote.
    I presume when players want to play Pacific Theater WW2 flight sim, they would expect to play US and Japanese planes in CV to CV exchanges.
    Keeping the Li-2 and Ju-52 from CV in order to make base capture easier would be an option and keeping a "Doolittle" version of the B-25 available from CV another.
    But for the game play of Pacific maps I would like just real carrier-only combat planes from USA and Japan only.
     
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    Useful? Where? Only for you.
    Pls take a Ki-27 and dogfight a spitVc at 3k alt, then, when spit rtb in dive, dive after him and lose all ur surfaces, but still flight, right? NO! Shoot him with the best 7.7mm ever created, with 1 bullet dmg all the plane, 2 bullets exploding him??? NOOO! Ki-27 is shit, just shit! Like Mc202.

    Yeah, right on way man! Pacific Theater must have USA x Japan, the others was only minority. Minority - Like Australia with CA-12 Boomerang (btw 491Km/h, piece of shit). Or finnish planes against russians, they don't count... cause they flew 109's... or holland planes like Fokker G.I (great plane, an "early" p-38)...
    Do u have any data about seafire II fighting against 109Ts??? If u have send me, cause i didn't find anything... Where are the Brewster Buffalos??? The P-63? Don't u like adding russian planes? P-63's were on the top... Where are the italian planes??? (not shits like mc202/205)
    REMOVE 109T-1, IT'S NOT USEFUL AND IS TAKING SLOT THAT COULD BE USED TO ADD AN USEFUL PLANE...

    YEAH! WE WANT G.55 TO REPLACE SHITS MC202/205!!! WE WANT REGGIANE RE.2005 TO REPLACE 109T!!! ;)
     
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    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Simply change the fuel amount for Doolittle version, and up the power so it can take-off properly.

    As for the P51, did they ever change it from being a stunted pig on takeoff to something more close to reality? I know I have posted RL videos of them taking off in the far past, and they have a lot of power when rolling.
     
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    Is takeoff the only problem with P-51?
    I think P-51 here is a very good plane, a bit dangerous for golds ;)
    Except from one sortie that my 109G-14 overruned a P-51 in dive, i don't know if it's ok... :D

    WE WANT G.55 TO REPLACE SHITS MC202/205!!! WE WANT REGGIANE RE.2005 TO REPLACE 109T!!! WE WANT A PLANE TO REPLACE THE MASTER SHIT KI-27!!!

    exec?
     
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    trying to extract rules of creation of graphic models from one of our artists.
    after publishing, anyone, including you can draw centauro for fh.
    as for sagittario... there were 29 of them.
     
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    Mb I really can, if u show me how... :cool:
    So will u put G.55 for golds? Very good!

    No man, there were 48 of them :dura:
    Btw, 48 of them with DB605 engine is much much much better than 5 109T's that is same of nothing....
    It's a good choice, 650Km/h, 2x20mm... Very good plane like centauro ;)

    Wich plane r u thinking about to replace Ki-27???
    C'mon exec, u will agree with me that Ki-27 has no use in FHL... Especially now, that will be some modifications in DM...
     
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    Yes, BUT of those 109T: NON of them ever took off for combat from a CV !

    Some of the RE-2005 did see combat.
     
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    YEEEEEEEESS!!!
    Did they ever flew?? :confused:
    Re-2005 did see combat, there are data about it...
    But no data about seafire II x 109T, right exec? :super:
     
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    what is "no data about seaf2/109t" ? performance data?
    or you mean seafire's combat record?
     
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    109t was produced in two series: T-0 10 planes, T-1 7 planes, T-2 63 planes.
    delivered to JG.77
    how many sagittarios been delivered to axis?

    sounds like über...
     
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    Ridiculous! Do u have any combat data about 109T???

    ÜBER? ÜBER?
    NOW EVERY GOLD PLANE IS ÜBER!!! GREAT!!!

    SHOW ME DATA ABOUT SEAFIRE AGAINST 109T, CAUSE THEY BOTH WAS CV PLANES!!!! IF 109T SAW COMBAT, AT LEAST....
     
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    ask him to show you data about pe-8 production numbers :p
     
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    why are you shouting?

    file:///G:/Docs/Simulator/Aircrafts/Britain/www.jaapteeuwen.com/ww2aircraft/html%20pages/SUPERMARINE%20SEAFIRE%20(Merlin,%20fighter).htm
    operation torch

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Seafire#Operational_history
    pacific, iwo jima
     
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    http://www.aldini.it/re2005/history.htm

    http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_reggiane_re2005.html

    http://www.comandosupremo.com/Re2005.html

    These website talks about the RE2005 in combat and tatics used against B-17 formations.

    And after Armistice German Air Force used 13 RE-2005 in Romania in defense of oil fields.

    Re2005 saw far more action that the 109Ts.


    Yes, so what if they are "uber"? The 262 was uber, and I don't see anyone taking the 20mm off and installing .303s.

    The P51D was uber and here it's a slug at take-off and can't accelerate anything like it should from RL (oops bad word here sorry).

    I think it would be a refreshing change than the usual ubers, or should I say the usual goobers using the usual ubers........:rolleyes:
     
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    i know that. germany did not finished nor graf zeppelin, neither peter straßer.
    T-2 was sent as ground based STOL to norway.

    träger was introduced to balance red carrier aviation.
    now it looks like it finished it's job and can pass it's slot to a new airplane.
    however, no new airplanes are ready for release.