cheater or abuse of authority??

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by big-jo, Apr 6, 2003.

  1. big-jo

    big-jo Well-Known Member

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    i think pietas had reason when he had problems with gungun, a "admin"


    now i and a squadmate have the problem.
    that guy chase me throughout 3 km in my 6 d6 shooting and with a lot of reds in his 6 at d2, when i could avoid him, i had disco,sytrange, because my ping was very good!

    ok, i can t believe that a guy like gungun ( now a newbie) chase me 3 km with enemies in his 6 without to know i was the con in his 12, and dont know why, but the question is.....:

    my squadmate saw a red killed a jeep in a base (gungun) and 20 sec later he did a h2h with a 109 at 10 k ft at 3 km from base, who was he?? gun gun

    he didn t explain this, so we request to the rest of admin if u can explain this, and why a kid can to have levels of administrator when he use that level for kick pilots when they are better than him


    sorry by my bad english
     
  2. Glas

    Glas Well-Known Member

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    I was in the Arena when this happened, tho I didnt actually see gungun being killed. I did however see the kill messages in the radio bar as big-jo described:

    gungun in hmack killed by a (cant remember his name) pilot.

    1 min later, kill of gungun by ben.

    Then ben says 10 secs later 'wtf i just killed you at 10k but you died in hmack 1 min ago'.

    gungun never responded.

    I know for a fact its not possible for a pilot to get that high in that quick a time, so either ben was exagerrating/lying about his height (tho he was adamant) or......

    -glas-
     
  3. -nicae-

    -nicae- Well-Known Member

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    admins have access to start at altitude.
     
  4. Sea

    Sea Well-Known Member

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    gungun - admin-cheater
     
  5. Rapier

    Rapier Guest

    Same Old Story?

    It seems, that we have come across an old repeating story about two admins of FreeHost:
    --am-- or gungun (maybe it is even the same guy, using different nicknames),
    who are using superadmin rights to inflict with "Airstarts" and "Kicking Players" for reasons unequivocally to be judged as Cheats and/or Abuse of Power

    Read
    here: August 6, 2002 or
    here: November 22, 2000.

    To all people involved in the recent incident, check your logs for evidence and post this evidence here, please.

    Regards
     
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  6. rgreat

    rgreat FH Developer

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    am = gungun, but i dont think that aike will take actions untill somhthing really nasty will happend.
     
  7. Glas

    Glas Well-Known Member

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    How far does his admin rights go? Its not really fair if he can start wherever and whenever he likes.

    Regardless, any kill he gets in the Arena from now means nothing imo. Perhaps admin rights can extend to reinstating lost streaks as a result of him? Althoug some people could cut the problem at source if they choose to do so, it seems.

    -glas-
     
  8. sierra

    sierra Well-Known Member

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    your opinin glas!

    but tell me: how can someone climb more than 10.000 ft from a SIEGED field without being killed?
    no chance!
    I say (call my a lier if you want to): He used his admin status to get in this height.
    AND I AM sure, that I was in this heigth. I cant proof it, but you can't either :)

    my problem is. I can complain as much as I want. Nothing will happen.
    The only hope I have is cooperation from other players who encountered such "incidents"

    nevertheless.
    I will continue flying un FH, because it's fun and I have made many great (international) friends

    I'll try to avoid "mid-air meetings" with gungun....

    Ben
     
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  9. Rapier

    Rapier Guest

    Nasty?

    @ Rgreat
    What would you consider "really nasty".
    As far as I am concerned, abuse of super admin rights is nasty enough isnґt it?
    The recent incident alone makes a whole lot of players feel annoyed, notwithstanding the other incidents in the past, quoted above.
    I suggest, dear Rgreat, that you simply draw Aikeґs attention to this thread. :director:

    Thanks and
    regards
     
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  10. rgreat

    rgreat FH Developer

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    Aike always ignore this kind of flamewars.
     
  11. Glas

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    @ sierra/ben: If you read my post again (carefully) and also my second post on the matter, you might just realise i was actually agreeing with what you were saying.

    I wasnt there, but you insisted it happened and gungun never said otherwise, so my guess is there was some truth in what you said. But I wasnt there, so I cant say for definite.

    Regardless, if aike wont listen to 'flamewars', is there a polite way of letting him know about strange goings-on Rgreat?

    -glas-
     
  12. Rapier

    Rapier Guest

    Flame?

    @ Rgreat
    Nobody is flaming here, it is just a straight forward help for an investigation accusing one of the admins, who continues to spoil the reputation of the FH-team with their otherwise admirable work accomplishmants and diligence. It should be your own responisibility, Rgreat, to solve this issue. Do not brush it under the carpet as if things did not happen at all, please.

    Here is my log about the last incident. It does not prove the altitude "gungun" had, when he was killed by "--ben-", but it certainly proves the timing of short but 30 sec between having been killed as hmack and thereafter having been killed flying a 109 (in how --ben-- testifies 10kft).
    It is hoped that the corresponding server-log will help to find out about the altitude.

    06.04.2003 18:38:14 === Logging started ===
    18:38:17 -HOST-(Host): November 1941 (month 23, day 3)
    18:38:17 -HOST-(Common): rapier <<--Enter the room

    18:47:06 -HOST-(Host): You got a piece of gungun yourself though!
    18:47:06 -HOST-(Host): Kill of gungun by kilerr from Polish Fighting Team

    19:25:44 -HOST-(Host): Kill of Human Ack BRISTO by yansen
    19:25:57 big-jo(Common): play super mario bross if u cant catch me here!
    19:26:03 -HOST-(Host): Kill of Human Ack GUNGUN by kilerr from Polish Fighting Team
    19:26:05 --ben-(Squad): looooooooooool
    19:26:09 -HOST-(Host): Kill of macher by howard from Legion Condor JG69
    19:26:12 big-jo(Squad): wtg
    19:26:12 --ben-(Squad): Wtg
    19:26:20 big-jo(Squad): im red like a tomate
    19:26:23 gmmgmm(Red): ti
    19:26:27 gmmgmm(Red): ti
    19:26:30 -HOST-(Common): barnei <<--Enter the room
    19:26:30 big-jo(Squad): hate, agression, the dark side they are
    19:26:31 barnei(Common): Hi all
    19:26:33 -HOST-(Host): Kill of gungun by --ben- from Legion Condor JG69
    19:26:33 -HOST-(Host): Kill of --ben- by gungun
    19:26:37 big-jo(Squad): concentration mmmmmm
    19:26:40 --ben-(Squad): HДДДДДДДДД???
    19:26:40 big-jo(Squad): wtg
    19:26:41 -HOST-(Host): Kill of Human Ack MACHER by howard from Legion Condor JG69
    19:26:42 --ben-(Squad): moment ma!
    19:26:47 big-jo(Squad): wtg
    19:26:49 -HOST-(Host): Maneuver Kill of zagzig by segan-
    19:26:49 -HOST-(Host): Maneuver Kill of -comm- by segan-
    19:26:51 --ben-(Squad): gungun WAR GRADE HUMANACK
    19:27:02 baksto(Common): segan warp relog!!!!!!!!!!
    19:27:07 --ben-(Squad): der cheated!!
    19:27:13 -HOST-(Host): Kill of kilerr by macher
    19:27:14 big-jo(Squad): what happened=
    19:27:16 big-jo(Squad): ?
    19:27:18 howard(Squad): macher WAr gerade erst 109 und WAR dann human ack :)
    19:27:20 --ben-(Squad): gungung was humanack 20 secs before! 19:27:24 howard(Squad): der wird sich дrgern
    19:27:26 --ben-(Squad): now i killed him at 3km!!!
    19:27:32 big-jo(Squad): fuck!
    19:27:37 big-jo(Squad): did u film it?
    19:27:38 -HOST-(Host): System:FIELDF28 is now closed
    19:27:39 --ben-(Squad): neg
    19:27:44 big-jo(Squad): i filmed my disco
    19:27:53 -HOST-(Host): Kill of Human Ack GUNGUN by redeye from "Elite"
    19:27:55 segan-(Common): bak -429, relog you
    19:28:00 -HOST-(Common): yansen <<--Leaves
    19:28:02 -barf-(Common): I die for the Czar
    19:28:02 -HOST-(Common): macher <<--Leaves
    19:28:07 -HOST-(Common): skv--- <<--Enter the room
    19:28:09 skv---(Common): Hi all
    19:28:11 big-jo(Common): gungun U R A CHEATER!!
    19:28:14 --ben-(Common): gungun please explain the following
    19:28:17 -HOST-(Common): macher <<--Enter the room
    19:28:17 macher(Common): Cau fsem !
    19:28:20 baksto(Common): you warping
    19:28:24 howard(Red): reopen time f28 pls
    19:28:24 --ben-(Common): you've been killed as HUMANACK
    19:28:28 -jeah-(Squad): rofl die paras f28 rocken
    19:28:32 howard(Red): paras land in water ?
    19:28:39 --ben-(Common): and 20 sec's later i killed you in 10kft in 109!

    19:29:01 --ben-(Squad): sowas! sack der!
    19:29:09 big-jo(Common): hijo de puta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    19:29:18 --ben-(Common): no comment? ok i TAKE this as an answer...

    06.04.2003 19:34:42 === Logging stopped ===

    Thank you for consideration.
    Regards
     
  13. -fla--

    -fla-- Well-Known Member

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    Guys, if you don't know, ALL sorties are recorded. When you jump into plane an alias is executed and it start recording as "lastsortie.trk", it ends when you land. So next time you see something unusual, when you land exit wb and exchange this file name (so it's not writtenover).
     
  14. --oleg

    --oleg Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for offtopic.
    Where that file placed? I never saw it. May be i need to turn some switch on?
     
  15. -nicae-

    -nicae- Well-Known Member

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    if that is true, i have to call someone a genius! farid? :)
     
  16. Glas

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    @ oleg: Recorded tracks go in the FHLauncher folder, there is a default 'tracks' folder there. You can play them through the 'Start - Programs - FHLauncher - Play track' option.

    @ Fla: That auto-record thing is a bit of a pain. I disabled mine, as I imagine a few have. If ben still has it tho he just might have the track.

    -glas-
     
  17. ledada

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    there is no auto-recording here...
    at least not when you used the "save settings/restore settings" while installing new version!
     
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  18. -fla--

    -fla-- Well-Known Member

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    it is 2 alias:
    onstartflight
    CH100 .record last_sortie
    onexitflight
    CH100 .stop


    Nic, yes! Farid was a genius in this one (as well as whole FHLaucher) :@prayer:
     
  19. ozemale6t9

    ozemale6t9 Well-Known Member

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    This is only true if FHLauncher install was new install... IMO, upgrade keeps old aliases. Other problem is some people deleted the record alias because a) they didn't want it, or b) they did not know what it was for.

    I have used this feature on many occasions, and think it is great, but you have to remember to change the file name. The lastsortie file is saved in programs\fhlauncher\tracks if you use default installation.

    BTW...I don't exit to rename......just Alt-Tab, then go to folder and rename.

    Regards, Oz
     
  20. biles

    biles Well-Known Member

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    I have two macros.
    first is record
    second is stop