high energie turn

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  1. tigrou

    tigrou Well-Known Member

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    hello

    can someone help me about the engine management in fight:

    ex: in spit i dive at max speed and turn 180

    what is the best to not loose E and turn in minimum radius, hvy G load with wep, or idle ?

    i think it's a compromise, can u explain it

    merci d'avance ;)
     
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    I dont think there is compromise if U put it like this. If U go iddle U wont get more E from engine, and U will not loose it, but U will get lower turn radius (the limit is G load, at lower speed the same G is at lower radius).
    If U dive with wep on, U will supply additional E to the plane, but the turn radius will be greater.
    Anyways this manouver U describe is the best way to loose E: high speed, high load turn against gravity, probably to get HO with persuer. Bad idea generaly IMHO, except if U fly yak.
     
  4. illo

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    -Diving always bleeds E no matter what. Faster you go higher the drag.
    -Idling engine always bleeds E.
    -Engine can build E in level flight when plane is accelerating
    -Engine can build E when plane is climbing.

    It's good to use lag turns in diving attacks. Dont turn in horizontal ...well because theres vertical where you can convert half of that turn into climb and energy.

    Like mcgru said. Plan your dives well, choose right timing. Then you dont need to turn and waste your E. If you miss your pass because bad timing or wrong prediction pull back into climb, regain your E by accelerating some at level (if you dont see any advantage in instant attack) and go into another well planned dive.
     
  5. illo

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    btw. if you want to turn at small radius you must be slow. You must bleed your E like hell and let go of all E advatage you have. tho i cant see why youd want to do that...maybe to get 1 shot? maybe to get 1 kill if opponent is unskilled?

    Better to keep your E and get several without having to go into defensive.
     
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    This is not true IMHO. If con makes horizontal break turn, U go up to loose speed (gain E), then turn, then go down (regain speed) or simply put: do high yoyo. If performed well this will put U behind the con with speed advantage or at least gives oportunity on snap shot and E advantage.
    This tactic makes high wing load planes flyable in dogfight :).
     
  7. tigrou

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    i wonder that cause, sometimes, in HO very fast, the con do after an horizontal 180, go faster than me and kill me. :rolleyes: how could he do that !?
     
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    Mayby flying yak3 ;).
     
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    tigrou Well-Known Member

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    especialy yak 3 :turret:
    i'm red in this tod, i will try it, :rtfm: