Jeep Ack Limitation

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by Seille, Feb 13, 2003.

  1. Seille

    Seille Well-Known Member

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    dear admins and developer,

    Just want to know if and (if yes) when the limitations will come. Not long ago here we had discussions about that and i had the feeling that the admins/developer are working hard on this problem. But this was about 3 weeks ago and i still see up to 10 jeep acks sometimes on a grass field.

    I think it´s really important to limit the numbers of jeeps per field (maybe 2/3/4/6) or you´ll have resets every 2 weeks in Main....

    The Problem with jeeps not destroyable by bombs is solved and will come with next update ? When will the update come ? (don´t want to make pressure, it´s just a question ;) )

    Actually the game is not really funny for Jabo and also for Buffer if they don´t fly in stratosphere or have 10+ escorts.

    Pls find a solution for the jeeps and that fast as possible. If you can´t find a solution now maybe it´s a good idea to remove the jeeps complete until you found the right way to limit their use.

    regards,

    Seille
     
  2. kangaa

    kangaa Well-Known Member

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    Theres that whining noise again......


    This what we got
     
  3. Seille

    Seille Well-Known Member

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    Do you know what i´m talking about ? I can say this as an active Jabo Pilot. Maybe you´re an active HMack Pilot.......This would explain your comment :D :D
    This question was to the developer not to the HMack fans. OK ?


    Seille
     
  4. Glas

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    Admin agreed this was a problem when i first raised the point with Rgreat some time ago.

    I dont see how someone simply asking politely for a timescale to solving the problem is 'whining'!

    -glas-
     
  5. -nicae-

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    bomb --> hmack
    bomb -->plane

    solved in current beta AFAIK (i didnt test tho)
     
  6. Malino

    Malino Well-Known Member

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    I must agree with Seille, it's a pain in the arse when a small field re-opens and theres instantly 5-6 jeeps sitting there.

    Not only that but it spoils me vulching.


    Malino
     
  7. Seille

    Seille Well-Known Member

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    Can one of the admins/developer give me answers on my questions above ? I´ll not stop to ask before i have my answer. ;)

    Seille
     
  8. achtun

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    i agree kangaa...

    @seille we all asked for jeeps to come back, and know are we gonna begin asking for the jeeps to dissapear?

    damn, admnis are gonna get crazy, and see, i don't think it's so important stuff, and i'd not talk bad about all those who pick hmacks, cause is a part of game that was in RW and makes this game much more fun (IMHO)

    as nic said AFAIK this was solved to kill acks with bombs, so i think this topic is no sense.
     
  9. Seille

    Seille Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, i was the guy that did not want the HMack. From my side the jeep should be removed completely, but a good compromise is to limit the use of jeeps per field at the same time.

    All i want is that these jeep brigades disappear when a field is under attack. Pls tell me how to capture a field by Buffraid or Jabo without lots of fighter escorts for killing the jeeps (don´t say now jeeps are not dangerous).

    Limitation is all i want. This is more than fair i think. V1 is (was?) limited. I just want a jeep limit in the same way.

    @achtun
    Maybe you should join a LC Jaboraid in the next day´s. Then you´ll see why many player have problems with jeeps. Don´t think i´m the only one !! There are many, but not all write in this forum and not all can write in english.

    Seille
     
  10. gghost

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    Yeah, than you haven?t asked me too, i don?t want them! Its just not fair, if some Pilots fly for 10min to attack a enemy field, the ju is also otw, and than field close, maybe some scramblers killed, a hangar was just killed with guns, and after 300secs or so, short reopen, and 5-10 hmacks are at the field :(
    And when ju is already over field, theres no escape for the brave ju pilot who got this piece of crap (ju) to field!
    It wassnt possible for the field personal to get jeeps in fire position, if everything around was destroyed (hangars, garages and so on)! So the hmacks appear out of nowhere, thats just not fair!
    delete hmack or restrict to very low numbers, the only possibility! If you need more hmacks at a field, you have to drive them from another field!
     
  11. -nicae-

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    hey hey HEY! *YOU* wanted them to come back! i was ALWAYS against it (rgreat hates me for that :))! :dura:

    btw - there aren't any jeeps in roger wilco :p

    :cheers:
     
  12. vojtas

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    have you guys been lately in TA ? try typing .plane 84 .... i just love to race with these little jeeps :D
     
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    It's .plane 85. It even has 2 paras onboard ! :D :super:
     
  14. illo

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    I never liked jeeps either.
    And there has never been jeep with 4x.50cal.

    Maybe we get TIE with proton torpedos next. :)
     
  15. Glas

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    @ Ach: I dont believe it was the case in RL that when a field came under attack all the pilots jumped in jeeps to save it (for one thing, the jeeps didnt exist as illo said). Also, i have read too many stories about pilots scrambling from attacked fields and being killed on take off.

    Which reminds me, 2 arguments for the price of 1 if anyone wants to moan about vulching :D

    -glas-
     
  16. Seille

    Seille Well-Known Member

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    What a surprise !! I´m not the only one that hates the actual jeep ack. I think the most Pilots which are active in a squad and interested in capturing fields and not only fighting CAN´T like the jeep acks.

    Come with me on a jabo raid...

    :) while otw to enemy field
    :p while closing the field with my comrades
    :eek: i see the first jeeps
    :( I see what will happen while attacking the jeeps
    :mad: downed by the jeeps
    :confused: thinking about a way how to attack a jeep brigade

    btw, i´m still thinking about and no solution in sight. I´m really glad that so many of you guy´s on my side. Nicae,maybe we should start a poll to ask the FH players which jeep setting they really want. I don´t say it´s a must to remove them, but the jeep should be modified.

    Seille
     
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  17. illo

    illo FH Beta Tester

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    i think .plane 85 with bigger 3d model would be best solution.
     
  18. Cicero

    Cicero FH Designer

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    Simply to say, Seille: Not ready yet!

    Statements are OK, but it doesn't make it faster. Be sure, developers know about player oppinions and facts and are looking for good solutions. But hell, its not only on jeepacks, it much more work to do. :director:
    And if U set your time limit to 3 weeks, then U'll never get, what U would like, just in time. :dunno:

    However, I don't like jeeps too. They cannot fly! :ass:
     
  19. Seille

    Seille Well-Known Member

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    I said nothing from time limit or so, just wanted to know if the developer working on this problem or they just wait until the "whiners" stop cry or go away.
    Don´t know how much work this is, but in my eyes the jeeps are the main problem actually. It´s just a question of priority....

    If you guy´s work on it it´s fine, but sometimes i would really hear more about the developer ideas/plans. They work on limitation/3d-model/weaponry ?

    I would really like to help with tests or something if there is need.

    Seille
     
  20. Cicero

    Cicero FH Designer

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    Sie arbeiten an:

    Direkt:
    - Flugmodellen
    - 3D Modellen
    - Zuladungen
    - RPS
    - Gunnery Modell
    - Bugs
    - Gameplay
    - Grafik (z.B. smoke FX)
    - Flugzeugbeschreibungen
    - Texturen
    - Cockpits
    - am FH-Launcher, wie auch am Server
    (und zwar in Beachtung ALLER Flugzeuge oder Bodeneinheiten, und ebenso alles zur selben Zeit)


    Indirekt:
    - Recherche (!)
    - Ideenfindung
    - Prüfen
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    - Sämtliche Foren lesen (und antworten)


    Außerdem:
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    - WB spielen


    Tester wär wohl jeder gerne, aber das ist gar nicht sooo lustig, wie's klingt. Bei jeder kleinen Änderung gleich neu downloaden und installieren. Und nebenbei zerhaut die Beta immer meine aktuelle offizielle Version.
    Falls Du helfen willst, liegt die größte Möglichkeit bei der Beschaffung von Daten aus dem WW2. Denn wer Tester werden will, der muß genug Hintergrundwissen haben und vor allem die Fahigkeit, seine eigene Meinung nicht so wichtig zu nehmen.

    Ich zum Beispiel, hatte einfach mal angefangen, Cockpits zu basteln, ewig nur sporadisch Kontakt mit Admins gehabt und schließlich wahnsinnig viel dazugelernt. Als meine Leistungen irgendwann wertvoll genug waren, wurd ich in die Testerriege aufgenommen, was noch lange nicht heißt, daß ich irgendwas zu entscheiden hab. Ich kann nur zuschauen und immer dann irgendwo einhaken, wo ich was fundiertes zu weiß.
    Ach ja, und nebenbei Cockpits bauen... ;)

    Aber was nix nützt, sind nur persönliche Meinungen, auch nicht, wenn viele diese teilen. Die Entwickler wissen davon, die Restriktion ist auch bereits als möglicherweise ideales Mittel erklärt worden, nur dauert alles eben seine Zeit. Solange muß man halt mit schlechten Dingen wie eben den Jeeps leben. Sie sind nur eines von vielen Problemen...und eben nicht das allerwichtigste.