Left-Wing European Subsidies... Again

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  1. squirl

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    "French president Jacques Chirac yesterday pledged to help fund a new European internet search engine to rival Google and Yahoo as he railed against what he sees as the threat of Anglo-Saxon cultural imperialism."

    Jacques Chirac:

    [size=+2]"We're engaged in a global competition for technological supremacy. In France, in Europe, it's our power that's at stake."[/size]

    Jacques Chirac feels threatened by Google?

    Perhaps he should do this search.
     
  2. Broz

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    hope he is successful!
     
  4. Uncles

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    Lol! Yes, Squirl, that is crazy :)

    If only Chirac knew the true state of things in American IT (information technology), he wouldn't be as worried. I wish it was 1999 again, but it isn't. Don't doubt the decline of our role in things related to IT. It's history. We're toast.
     
  5. Perdomo

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    So now Chirac is left-wing? LOL

    Why everyone saying anything only even remotely against U.S. is a leftist?

    Chirac, my ignorant friend squirl, is really right wing... that's why he is a nationalist defending his country!! :p (which happens not to be U.S., but, you know, right-winged people everywhere defend their countries interests above all....)
     
  6. squirl

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    Perdomo, you have an over-simplified view of politics. You assume that only right-wing people can be patriotic. Even though I am from the Right, I must admit you are not giving left-wingers enough credit for serving their countries throughout history. Lyndon Johnson, who supported many leftist policies, stood up for the United States during Vietnam. Many say his administration mismanaged the war, but the fact remains: he took a "tough" approach to hostile communist countries.

    The real difference between the Right and Left is the opinion on how extensive government bureaucracy should be. The Right favors a smaller bureaucracy, having fewer government services in the name of lower taxes, transferring the responsibility of these services to the citizens. The Left favors a larger bureaucracy, using the government to provide services to the citizens, and using higher taxes to finance those services.

    Jacques Chirac has approved a forgivable loan to a French company which is planning to compete with Google's search engine.

    This is only one step away from having a state-run search engine company.

    If you don't see government subsidies as left-wing policy, then you are too lost to even know that you are lost.
     
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    Maybe he should try this search. I just love the "define:" thing in Google. Helps a lot! :p

    If government funding is left-wing policy, Canada must be the most communist country in America LOL Did you see how much money they lend to Bombardier?
     
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  8. Broz

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    i found this definiton you'll probably like, and its implications, squirl.

    Don't trust all you see in the net
     
  9. Perdomo

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    Ok, so once more we have an american who tries to use his american way of politics and apply them to the rest of the world... I guess Franco was a communist then? that's why he was such an isolationist? that's why he supported protectionists politics for spanish products? oh! yes, and he helping hitler and fighting communists was just a really good trick....

    Man, your view of politics is the one that is simplistic, and in Europe, everybody knows that Chirac is right-winged. Taxing foreign products, helping national industries, and using huge bureocraty are things that both right-wing and left-wing have used one time or another.

    You are being simplistic assuming that any action taken to protect Europe is a leftist one.

    Do you know the differences between a socialist and a communist? and an anarchist? do you know that here in spain we have at least three different kinds of political leftists (four if we count the nationalist-communists from Galicia) and 3 types of rights? that anarchists promote not taking part in political life just as the fascists do? (that's not the only thing in which they are similar, though one are extreme-left and the others are extreme-right) are there any anarchists legally accepted in your country? and fascists? I think that your over-simplistic two parties system don't allow your mind to understand the complex political relations in places like Europe (republicans and democrats! LOL, in spain a republican definition would be much closer to a communist than to a right-minded person, because Republic for us means no monarchy).
     
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    And you say Perdomo has an over-simplified view of politics? You dont half talk out of your arse mate.
     
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    lol, who is hostile to whom i don`t know
     
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  12. Fucketeer

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    Good article! If I remember correctly, this was already discussed on this forum, that war-politics are mostly communistic (and dare I say, dictatoric) politics, that squeezes people out for the biggest possible production.

    But I still see this whole thing as a denomination-duel; till we can correctly define what we mean under several terms, the names themself don't matter.
     
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    The problem is that there is no "universal" definition. So it's absurd to speak about left and right as a general term. At least when comparing minds from USA and Europe.
     
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    after using google for several years, sudenly french medias wonder about it.
    and we have now plenty of discussions about google earth / google books etc ...and the search engine is not that bad (exept more commercial links than some years ago) but countries and ppl have the right to be agree or not with the fact that a commercial company share the super definition pics of their land.
     
  15. squirl

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    You have yet again demonstrated your confusion about politics. When a region's politics are all from one side of the political spectrum that region's population loses track of political polarity.

    Europeans do not know what the Right is in the same way that people who live on the equator do not know what winter is.
     
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    Actuallu i'd say we Europeans invented the Right, but... what he hell, you're the genius here! (or not ;))
     
  17. Fucketeer

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    Well, the terms "right" and "left" come from France, the French parliament, right? France pretty much is in Europe.

    But I don't know if ever was winter on the equator. (Maybe ice-age just fits in here well.)
     
  18. tigrou

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    i didn't talk about politic?, and i will never support chirac who stole the president pole by making his campeign on security probs only.
    just that google earth is a part of big brother.
     
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    And you have, once again, showed that you have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe that simplistic two partie system suits you fine, since you obviously can't comprehend anything more complex....
     
  20. Perdomo

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    So all europeans are leftists.... ok, that demonstrates the kind of logics we can wait from you squirl....