msnbc says it openly

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by grobar, Jul 14, 2008.

  1. grobar

    grobar Well-Known Member

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    Can U.S. be a skillful interventionist with scant supply of foreign speakers?



    "How can the United States be a successful interventionist nation without an adequate supply of people fluent enough to interrogate the locals ? not just in Afghanistan ? but around the world?"
    get ready to be interrogated. they are coming soon to your neighbourhood!

    this is especially pertinent to Exec:



    "It?s not just Pashto and Dari in Afghanistan, but Javanese and Indonesian, or Kazakh, should trouble erupt in that oil-and-uranium-rich nation."


    "If today?s problem is the Dari deficit, what about five or ten years from now?
    The Defense Department might invest money in training a cadre of people in Farsi or Kazakh, only to find that it may not need them in five years, instead finding themselves short of Javanese and Indonesian speakers."


    "But training soldiers and Marines to more than a rudimentary level of a language is a long, expensive task ? even to get them to ?2 plus? on the military?s zero-to-five language proficiency scale."
    yep, marines ARE idiots, what did you expect?

    "At the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, Calif., ?they?re spending 63 weeks in Arabic, five days a week, six hours a day, these kids are amazing. Sixty-three weeks ? and only a portion of them can make it,? said Richard Brecht, head of the University of Maryland?s Center for Advanced Study of Language, who testified before Snyder?s committee Wednesday. ?It?s real tough.?"
    yes, they are ultra-stupid. it took me 150 hours course to learn communicative arabic, by their rate thats just 5 weeks.
     
  2. grobar

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    "Krepinevich told Snyder?s committee that he?d recently talked to one Army general who said, ?Once we leave Iraq and Afghanistan, we?re not going to do this for another 30 years. The American people won?t stand for it? ? but Krepinevich doesn?t necessarily believe that.

    The trends, he said, point to ?a disordered world.?

    The inescapable demographic reality is that a huge percentage of the population in Africa, South America, and Asia is under age 15 ? ?a rising number of highly frustrated people? who live in countries with incompetent or corrupt governments, Krepinevich said. "

    Yes, he is quite right! But maybe he should ask why these people are so frustrated?
    Here is a nice little (american) animated film that explains some of it:
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    If you'd like a specific and extensive illustration on these issues, i'd recommend downloading a very gentle film, showing the oil-industry of Azerbaidjan and the newly built british Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline: the Czech documentary "Zdroj" (The Source).




    "These people often resort to violence and they may live in places with an impact on U.S. trade and prosperity. "
    thats more democracy installment and freeing of oppressed peoples to come, of course!

    "?Irregular warfare is here to stay, it is a trend, I think it is going to increase in importance,? said Krepinevich

    And this won?t be the traditional waging of war ? blowing up bridges or dropping bombs on enemy troop concentrations ? but policing, training, and patrolling."

    i.e. occupation.


    "With the U.S. military already over-stretched, irregular warfare will require choices. ?We?re probably not going to place a high priority on being able to deploy in sub-Saharan Africa,? said Krepinevich. ?There are places in the world where you say if this country fails, it is going to have a major effect on U.S. security or economic well being.?

    Case in point: Nigeria, from which the United States imports more than 400,000 barrels of high-quality crude oil every year, nearly as much as it imports from Saudi Arabia. ?You say, ?That?s one area we?re going to have a hard time turning our back on,?? Krepinevich said."
    Have you heard about the Nigerian terrorists, blowing up Shell pipelines and kidnapping the (all foreign) oil workers? The film for Baku shows well why this would happen.



    "In the long run, recruitment of foreign speakers depends on vastly improved language education starting in the nation?s primary schools, he pointed out.

    Relative to the size of state population, Utah has the highest number of students studying foreign languages of any state."
    oh, yes, thats the breeding nest of the mormons! the guys sending missionaries to bring the true faith and democracy around the world.

    "Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman is one of the only prominent American politicians fluent in Chinese. Huntsman worked as a Mormon missionary in Taiwan in the late 1970s"
     
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  3. mumble

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  4. grobar

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    you are brainwashed


    it is so easy if one has a Satan to blame, whether bin laden, or bush.

    sure, obama will put a stop to the imperialist projects.
     
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    "How can the United States be a successful interventionist nation without an adequate supply of people fluent enough to interrogate the locals ? not just in Afghanistan ? but around the world?"

    I wonder of the same communications deficit exists in business?
    Not rying to be ironic here.
    Seems business pays for talent.
    And a thugs is a thugs is a thug.
     
  6. grobar

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    most people who want to make a better living by working or trading for western suppliers have learned english. learning english is one way they have moved upwards from their thousands of business fellows (in third world everybody is a businessman, by necessity of survival).


    the western business never ever had to learn their languages.
     
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    the name is fucked up.

    This thread needs to be renamed "America, the stupid fucking evil empire"

    You ever serve in the military grobar?
     
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    Well, you seem to have no trouble placing all the blame on the evil "West", as if the problem was inherent to western culture and not to the oldest vice of man - GREED.
     
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    A "successful interventionist nation" , now THAT is funny.

    Reminds me of the story:

    "Shall We Have a Little Talk?" by Robert Sheckley

    It's a great read.