Night time in MA?

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by -BISH-, Feb 16, 2005.

  1. -BISH-

    -BISH- Well-Known Member

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    Any chances of seeing night time in MA or is this limited to taba?

    3 of us wanted to train, could not get into TA so used taba. The other 2 improved their shooting...my parachuting got better!

    But as we were dogfighting the night came in...we milled around by moonlight, -cb- still was good aim...my parachuting still good. I rolled again and we kept going until daytime arrived. Was a fun experience and got me thinking of how i'd try to use it in MA.

    Will night be seen in MA?
     
  2. gryphon

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    unlikly since 2d usses get black screen and crash at night
     
  3. -BISH-

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    I fly 2d due to shit g-card....I was surprised, but it worked!
     
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    In SA (ETO arena) you can actualy test night mode too. We have been preparing new scenario campaign there.
     
  5. laxtsc

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    I flied night bomber mission on Tabahost in 2D. I didn't had problems with take off, but lights on runway could be very, very usefull. At 1-2km alt I was even able to see some mountains and avoid them, but ... That was during my real night with lights off, then I could see something on monitor. During day a night missions are much less visible, and at summer, when sun flashes through window, even if covered, it's very hard too see something with day-missions, so night-missions are unplayable then.
     
  6. spuint

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    i would like to see in MA earlier mornings and later evenings
    but no night
    some ppl would change brightness with external programs, some wouldnt and loose due to that
    and night in software mode is worse than in d3d
    i know what u thinkin bish - night mosquito runs, 110s finally used as irl etc
    but imho would be rather hard to achieve this
    2 reasons:
    - to use night cover in buff raids it would need to be as long as days; with too short nights its rather hard to make things work, especially in heavy big buffs (takes time to get to the target) and nights aint that long even on tabahost which makes the conclusion, they wont be that long at rusfh for sure;
    - most ppl want dogfight and in the night its almost impossible;
     
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    Lets explain:

    Nigh isnt a day. For most people night in arena means something like "really dark day". Thas misunderstanding sense of night missions. When you see the real WWII night missions and raids - there are no "daytype" dogfights, no bomber escorts.
    On the contrary - there are nightfighters hunting - some of them with onboard radar. There are close cooperation between ground radar operator and nightfighters. There are hvy buff raids whichs best cover is a darkness (its not problem set night period longer - e.g. in SA its from 04:00 to 05:30). There are also lot of space for sudden commandos raids. In the night - the living radar is question of life and death.

    So you shouldnt expec from night mode almost same as by day, only in dark colours.

    Ad 2D:
    I have tested also in 2D in SA and hadnt problems with orientation, or landing. Yes, its quite less easy than in 3D, but its possible. And btw you have instruments on your board in cocpit and they are usable for flying in low visibility...
     
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    Yup, I remember that Tabahost night. I was shooting at bish and saying 'needed some light, sorry' :rolleyes: :p . Landing was hard, I kept looking at the radar and other structures to calculate the distance from runway. What about cockpits? They're still too bright for night-time. I fly 2D by the way, GFX card is crap.
     
  9. Allsop

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    Night would be cool- I also think this would be nice because carpet bombing would come into effect- but I think this also means that we need to look at the DM of the rockets we use and then make longer down times on targets.
     
  10. -BISH-

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    I really hadn't gone that far into reality with the thought. The night in there doesn't last so long and I really wouldn't be up for full on nights long enough to make a heavy buff run. But what is does do is give an interesting break in gameplay and that was what struck me.

    That night period would make time valuable for those who like to close & capture, whereas at the moment this type of timing is never an issue. For raiders the constant clear bright skies always offer the advantage to hunters/dogfighters. Just one thought through my mind would be closing a field late in the day allowing the Ju in and out under cover of darkness for capture...after all, when you drive the bus you know that even if 1 defender has 3 of your buddies locked on his arse, he's gonna take you with him.

    It's only 5 minutes long after all, dogfighters just go on low throt and get a good position for sun up. I just like the idea it got my mind whirrrring is all...would be nice to try it out.
     
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    Very good point- Ive never seen a defender stick with a fight- they instantly go for the promise of a bus kill.

    I wouldnt be up for a nightime as long as day- but the suggestion of latter evenings and earlyer mornings would make it nice.

    Hell- I fly 3d and still apreciate the sunset that you see- pink clouds- the whole jazz- so a moon in the sky forawhile cant be all that bad.
     
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    reasonable GFX-adapters are avaible for low prices now... so if someone plays in 2d it's rather his own choice than the GFX-chip onboard... C'mon the cheapest 2nd-hand 16MB GFX card will have absolutely no problems with WB... and it shouldn't be more than 10$.

    Hence the 2D-argument of "no nights please" defenders is crap IMHO. It seems reasonable to test the nights for some time on MA... and then keep it or get rid of them.
     
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    how about "for a promise of defending a field"...?
     
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    Hi!
    IMHO...
    First:
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    Second:
    In the IIWW there were night fighters/bombers pilots, and the ones that were not...
    Third
    someone (but me) ever did ask for a poll (without the woodpecker blab) about how many of us really is doomed to fly in 2D?
     
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    You see, my motherboard doesn't accept anything better than a GeForce 2 (not including the GF2!!!). Why? I have no idea, it is fully updated and have tried more than 10 different cards on it. So... If you can buy me a new motherboard and some RAM to go with it (SD-RAM is rare now) I'd be happy to play in 3D. Which I can do, but awfully choppy for my taste. I currently have a TNT2 (32MB) if you were wondering. And I never said 'no nights' either ;)
     
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    Actually there were real nightfighter vs. nightfighter dogfights & RAF 100 squadron (amongst other) did do it's fair share of night bomber escort duty
     
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    i know it's impossible, but the great thing to be in wb is clouds. those fat pacific bubbles was a very big part of air fights.
     
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    frog's avatar looks like left rear part of fly that is tested in wind tunnel at subsonic speeds. what could it mean? %)
     
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    Frog's new avatar is left wing section of a Spitfire, armed with 2xHispano Mk.II :D
     
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    no. doesnt look like spit. %)
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