Please give the 250er back to the Me109F4!

To the developer of FH!
Please give in the next/new Version of Fh the Bomb back to the 109F4!
I dont now why ist really changed? I now/have read that every 109 (except the older ones as G10/K4) has a JABO-Version (Fighter-Bomber-Version) (called B-Version IRL). And now we have only the E4 as a fighter bomber - no F4, no G2 and at first the G6 can be flown as a fighter bomber. I think ist not right. And in german WB-Forum we have take a poll and 75% want back the Bomb for the 109F4.
So please change it or tell me the opinion why not.

 

check the opinion about la-7 on german forum too
wether it's ok to play or not

sorry, back on-topic.
i expect bombs will be back when developers ensure that friedrich-4 is not overmodelled. till then the firepower is decreased by removing /B

 

the G10 and/or K4 is/are older than the F4?

thanks for clearing this out

greetz, Zembla

 

Zembla what i mean is the LATER one! sorry it was a confusion of me

 

O.K. whats a statement.
But i dont understand the connection between an overmodeld plane and his load? Maybe if the 109F4 is really overmodeld (i dont now it exactly) and have now no bomb - the plane is furthermore overmodeld! And if the 109F4 have a bombload during flight, the plane than is not overmodelt, because it can not climb/flight away or turn out a other plane. And if the plane being attacked it must drop the bomb if it want to survive the fight. The only reason that i count for is that the F4 would be a (maybe) overmodeld plane, as a fighter after his bombdrop at an enemy field, for vulching this field.
And this reason i dont acknowledge!

 

In what is Me109F4 overmodelled (except incorrect RPS entry date)? You think it's overmodelled because it can climb like nothing and turn pretty well (not half as good as spitVb though)? Then read what Gerd Barkhorn (world's 2nd best ace ever - 301 kills) thought of it: "The Me-109F could climb and turn like hell. It was lighter than the other 109's, and was especially good when fitted with the 15mm MK 151 gun. I felt I could do anything with it. " Sounds familiar eh?

 

Stec, some people claim that the 109F4 in the game climbs better than the real 109F4 did. Whether that's true or not I don't know, but I think it should be investigated.

 

Don't worry, 109's climb speeds are being checked, and double checked

 

109f4 and g2 climb is porked. It's climb curve is just straight like not curve as it should be.

So climb is almost similar at 100m and 5000m.

It's definetely overmodeled, only question is when it will be fixed?

 

Ok here it is. Tested FH 109f4 and g2 compared to 109g2 at 1.42ata.(higher rated engine than in first g2s)

 

i don't rememner tha lastname of F2A USNavy polit, but he says the Zero can trim with lace around Buffalo.
ir's a metaphore, nothing more.
or do you think that Zero really can make three-four barrels while buffalo turn?

 

read again what i wrote.

 

Well here is quite opposite opinions. After shooting down 3 zeros guy says he wished he had Buffalo, lol.

Gordon Firebaugh, former Naval Aircraft Pilot with VF-2, later Captain USN:

Ofcourse USN HEAVY Buffalo was piece 'o crap compared to finnish light prototypes/ pre production F2A-1.

Greg "Pappy" Boyington:

 

And why dont you just stop picking on everything I say exec! Are you trying to piss me off or what? (and if so you succeed every time I assure you, smart a**).
I only wrote that guy who flew 109f in ww2 had the similar impression of this plane as most pilots in FH - even though this plane isn't WB's best turner or climber, it still "turns and climbs like hell" and gives you the general feeling of "being able to do anything with it". That was to oppose guys who often claim that 109f is overmodelled on FH because it was POS in RL.

 

impressions are not arguments.

 

Whilst we're having an argument can I add in why can the Spitfire in FH take twice as much damage as any other plane? It's easier to kill a buff than a Spitfire.

I've seen alot of other golds comment on this and reds seem to be taking advantage of it.

Malino

 

Its hard to kill anything with under 10 FH MG/FF rounds.

 

I have facts at least. I tested climb and have seen its too high.

It's about 5m/s too high at 3-6km. And that is major fault in FM imho. It climbs 1/4 too good! It is unreal. ufo.

It's enough to spoil any fun flying such plane.

 

10x20mm with MG/151 (My highest number of kills in a single sortie was actually done in a 109E with MG/FF though, 5 kills 2 assists)

Malin

 

I dont want a discussion about overmodelling! I want back the 250er bomb! And if the F4 is overmodelled so give the G2 the bomb! Such a long time in RPS without a fighterbomber from the 109 series!!!!
Whats my problem!