Question about loadout options

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  1. Red Ant

    Red Ant Well-Known Member

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    A few FH versions back, there used to be 2 loadout options for the P-38 J/L that have since been removed, namely 2 500 lbs or 2 x 1000 lbs bombs only (without bazooka rockets or HVAR's). Why was it necessary to do away with these options? Just curious ...
     
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    to free a plane slot?
     
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    Oh, loadout options count as plane slots, too? I didn't know that.
     
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    1)load kits do not affect plane slots.

    2)two versions ago i proposed to reorganise kits to simplify player's selection by removing duplicating slots. rockets do not spoil aerodynamics, and i suggested to keep them wherever possible.

    (removing duplicating slots was secondary idea. primary idea was to limit fighter-bombers and thus to promote strike planes. limits are: light fighters <250kg, fighters <500kg, heavy fighters>500kg)
     
  5. Red Ant

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    Aha, I see.

    I liked being able to choose just the bombs without any rockets. I'm good with bombs but less than stellar at firing rockets, and I tend to get myself killed trying to destroy targets with rockets. Obviously I could just leave the rockets on the runway before take-off, but that would be wasteful and somehow I can't get myself to do it (I know it's silly, but that's me :p).
     
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    don't fire'em. "control your greed, luke"
     
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    doesn't having rockets on board affect the performance of the plane?
     
  8. demian

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    I dont understand how rox do not affect aerodynamics?!
    I mean they must add some weight to plane, especially 10 of them???
    They r not paper right?
     
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    they do not affect aerodynamics.
    adding weight to the airframe they affect dynamics.
    it means that speed acceleration will be somehow slower.
    however, maximal speed value remains the same, that controverts aerodynamics principles.
     
  10. demian

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    And agility Exec?
     
  11. demian

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    stupid me, when he says aerodynamics he thinks about frame of plane,
    shape, and impact on speed...of course agility,climb,and acceleration
    are lower than with light version,but max speed doesnt change.
    TNx for explaining Exec, my brain does not accelerate so fast during the night:shuffle:
     
  12. Red Ant

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    ACTUALLY ... weight should affect top speed as well, if not dramatically so. More weight means the aircraft needs to produce more lift, which translates into a greater AOA => more drag, slightly less top speed. But I suppose Warbirds does not model it to that degree.
     
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    :director:
     
  14. Red Ant

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    Ya ya ya, sorry. :p
     
  15. demian

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    yeah ant, Actually. well Actually wb.:)
     
  16. demian

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    Exec,
    if u would be so kind ,u could help me with 1 question:
    as u say, weight in wb fh will not affect plane's max speed,
    and as i can see from speed chart 109 g2r6 has max speed
    same as 109 g2. ok.
    I really like mig 3 so i was curious to know why is t2 version so
    slower than t1? Does mig 3 t2 use some other version of engine?
    And if it does , is that engine better for low alt or is same as t1's ,
    better high? Tnx
     
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    rgreat when created new planes found that slowing external gunpod version could be done only by making another FM in another slot.
    that way worked ien with 109/r6 and that way made rgreat when added external gunpods for mig-3.
    he made mig-3/extguns slower than mig-3/clean.
    also, when people complained about i-16 agility, rgreat divided it to type 28 (with cannon and worse turn) and type 29 (mg with better turn and with bombs)
    i don't know whether ien actually made 109/r2 slower than 109...
    i will check it.
     
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    forgot to say:
    mig-3 and mig-3 has the same aerodynamics and engine AM-35A.
    the only difference is detachable gunpods.
     
  19. demian

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    OK, now simple question:
    If i ask u Exec, what is the difference in performance between mig t1 and mig
    t2, what will u say ?
    pls compare acceleration, speed, climb,agility.
    tnx
     
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    top speed lower
    accel propable worse
    roll worse
    climb worse
    virage somehow worse