Ukraine

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  1. -flank

    -flank Well-Known Member

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    а на вопрос поддерживает ли он убийство мирных украиной - он тактично промолчал
     
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  2. rgreat

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    Чего ты хочешь? Лицемеры и русофобы.

    Хотя ради этого результата их политики и СМИ долго и упорно старались.
     
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  3. -Shai-

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    or what?
     
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    what about heavy fire in sovereign country about 8 years, killing peoples of sovereign country, demolishing property of sovereign country, etc.?
    looks like its for you means nothing
     
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  5. -Shai-

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    опять пачкаемся об говно всякое...
    сначала об скакловое, теперь о пшековое...
     
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    Was ist passiert?
     
  8. vasco

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    PRACTICAL ADVICES SERIES

    1. How to recognise a russophobe:

    One has Russian friends.
    One has read more Russian literature than many Putin fans here.
    One has tens of books by Russians on his/her shelves.
    One loves and has entire hard disks with music by Russian composers.
    One plays music by Russians composers.
    One complains about Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
    Then he/she is a russophobe.


    The serious note
    The confusion between one's image about a leader/government and the people/own person is very common in those societies where state run propaganda leads to xenophobia, like it happens in today's Russia.
    We aren't opposing Russians, as a people, but their leader and his actions. We even understand that the propaganda is so fierce, that many of the Russians are it's victims. Nonetheless, it's impossible to sympathise someone who supports killings and invasions.
    Lucid Russians, hang on!
     
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  9. mcgru-

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    p.147, art.1: "shall base relations on mutual respect"
    p.148, art.3: (same) "mutual respect"
    the "mutual respect" disappeared with state's rollover in 2014, when the power was captured by very hostile (to Russia) nationalists such as Tyagniboc, Turchinov, Yatsenuc and Poroshenko.
    Th Maidan itself was a special operation of EU and US, that brought nationalists to power in Ukraine. Main aim of ukrainian nationalists - to declare the war on Russia by any means (after demands of contribution and other preludes).
    Earlier or later - no matter.
    After Zelensky told banderlogs are going to get nuclear weapon - this became a point of decision.

    It is very same as Israel "afraids" Iran's nuclear development - Iran many years ago was very islamistic and proclaimed a war on Israel. So israeli attacks to Iran's nuclear facilities wasnt continued by sanctions to Israel.
     
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    mcgru- Well-Known Member

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    there are a lots of bullshit. i'll describe later.
    heh... there was NO such myth as "Ukraine will use chemical weapon" (during 2014-2021) - a kinda "i generated myth, then i dispell it"
     
  11. pakman

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    The main and the only argument of russian state propaganda is that western countries for 8 years made a view that there is no killing of people in Donetsk by Nazies backed by the Ukranian state.

    Now teach me how to resist this.
     
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  12. pakman

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    Ok, not the only argument. Another one is look how NATO extends since times USSR died. For what purpose?

    How to resist? With the thought that every nation has right to choose military alliance?
     
  13. mcgru-

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    idiotism.
    russophobia - it is when you say 'moskalaku na gillaku!' ("hang moskovitians!"), it is when you say "russians killed millions ukrainian people during Golodomor!" (truth: hunger took million lifes not only of ukrainians, but russians, tatars and other nationalities)....

    give an example of xenophobia?
    70% people support Putin. so you are opposing 70% of Russians.
    Russians are "victims" of TRUTH.
    Kiev's Hunta (banderlogs goverment) KILLED 10.000 people in Donbass. Why you are not accusing banderlogs?
    Poroshenkko, the president of banderlogs, even rewarded(!!!) those pilot who killed dosens of women in Lugansk (video of killings exists since the event). Do yo want to see some videos of killings?
     
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    объясните пшеку термин peace-door-ball...
     
  15. pakman

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    Успокойся, Шай. Посмотри как поляк выглядит здесь - импотент пришёл в компанию мужиков, обсуждающих кто, с кем и как. В среде своих он не может удовлетворить свою тягу к участию в экшоне, поэтому приходит сюда, к людям, которые типа реально мутят.
     
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  17. Dornil

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    That's very kind of you to say. Yet, each of us bears some degree of responsibility for what is happening now - after all, it was us who allowed Putin to accumulate so much power, be it through action or inaction. Even here you can see, that there are still some people, who support him even today. Some of us were deceived, some willingly let themselves to be deceived, some simply did not have enough strength to do something - it hardly matters now. I personally never supported him, but I also did nothing viable to oppose him in all these years. So, perhaps, we all deserve what's coming for us soon... Regardless of our personal views, we will now have to try and survive the consequences of our "leader's" actions.

    P.S.: Соотечественники, не трудитесь комментировать - ваше мнение мне и так известно.
     
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  18. pakman

    pakman Well-Known Member

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    Надеюсь, ты это набивал, стоя перед клавиатурой на коленях.
     
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  19. vasco

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    Why should I read as you stil havent teached me how to resist Putin's prpaganda.

    Firt you teach, then I read.