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  1. rgreat

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    Oh boy.
    Here we go again.

    Do you remember 2014? russia entered Ukraine.
    Then 2022. All out attack on Ukraine.
    Lots of dead Ukrainians. Lots of destroyed homes, factories.
    It was your country that did it.
    You started a conquest war, raving about how you needed to keep Ukraine under your influence while at the same time accusing the West of imperialism.
    Of course you don't see your motivations as imperialistic, since your moral thinking is pretty much that of toddlers.
     
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  5. vasco

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    Of course, they're afraid of ruZZia's intentions.
    Everyone is, for you have a psychopathic leader who has turned many of you into orcs.
     
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    Should it be proven that the Poles/Ukrainians/Martians/turbots did it, they'll receive our gratitude.
    I'll even stop eating both turbots and Martians.
    But I won't quit Poles and Ukrainians though. :D
     
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    But the results of Special Military Operation are quite the oposite.

    Before 2014 even if there would be the political will to join the NATO the process will take decades (if stable political conditions would prevail). I think it was not really an option, because eastern part of Ukraine had strong connections to Russia. Generally these types of countries stay neutral (not because NATO or Russia order them to do so, but because they choose the option).

    I remeber the time, when USA was interested to establish a radar base for anti-missile defense in my country. Some politics strongly agreed but maiority of citizens stay distanced from the idea (including me). The idea fades away.

    The time passes and in these days the government sign the basic documents to establish permanent military base of the USA in my country. We are not super happy about the event, but we accept the reality of these times.

    We could say Putin saved the concept of NATO and made it viable.
     
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    Цель СВО не в борьбе с НАТО, а в борьбе за собственное выживание (это не заявляется официально, поэтому дальше идут мои личные измышления) Если бы мы допустили захват украиной Донбасса, нападение на Крым (а оно бы 100% случилось), неизвестно, что дальше - это была бы война на нашей территории, и вот это уже могло привести к шатаниям, развалу, и возврату в бардак 90х годов. Вместо этого Россия сама сплотилась и укрепилась, не хуже той же НАТО. Как-то так...
     
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    Really don't know why Russia support Donbas. It is ukranian teritory and without russian supplies the conflict would end in 2014.

    I don't think the Ukraine would be able to successfully attack Crimea without massive western support. And the western support before invasion was more or less emocional :rolleyes:
     
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    It seems that the current Zaporozhia push is not the main one.
    I think many in the ruZZian elite are having sleepless nights thinking over what side they should take in an eventual putsch. :D
     
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    Good for him.
     
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    A group of "liberators" wanted to leg it... but there was NKVD... err... barrier troops to stop them from stopping the "liberation".
     
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    Another great success of Russian army! :D

    The major-general Sakhrab Akhmedov is so fierce and competent that he will be the first russian general awarded by Ukranian forces as well :D ...for extraordinary results on the battlefield :D

    The major-general could serve as an exemple for another russian commanders. More of these people in russian command and the war will be over soon :p
    Congratulations to the general for pending ukranian medal :)
     
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    Waiting for his speech was a blast! A real bombshell so to call it!
     
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