Ukraine

Discussion in 'Warbirds General Discussion' started by vasco, Feb 21, 2022.

  1. hugo baskervill

    hugo baskervill Well-Known Member

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    He is not an idiot, but he surely makes mistakes. The Ukranian war was one of these. Crimea was another. Inteligent people usually make mistakes when deal with wrong information inputs. There were strong signals that possible invasion will not end by greeting of russian soldiers and falling of ukranian government. He choosed to believe more optimistic scenario and he made mistake.
     
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    Try to think - why Russia needed Sevastopol, and why banderlogs been tried to force black Sea fleet to go away since 1990-ties

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  3. hugo baskervill

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    As to said what I have seen in Ukraine, Banderlogs are useful fighting fools, desperate to prove its purpose and usefullness. In time of peace they would be disbanned long time ago, but Ukraine is in war since 2014. Newertheless their political impact is negligible.

    I didnt saw power-hungry politicans with diabolic plan how to sieze power and gain nuclear weapons. I saw elder men with homemade battledress and obsolette guns in guard-patrols, saying "We were right all that time when the others saw us as a fools."
     
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    BTW What is the difference between these talks from Banderlogs and similar talks of Zhirinovski? This man sould also make some of your speech only in well closed toilet :D
     
  5. vasco

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    I pity those boys. One of them died from the exposure already, 70+ others in critical state.
    That's some great leadership.
     
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    Finally, my country send some tanks and BVPs to Ukraine :)

    I'm still curious, where are the ukranian mechanized brigades, hoping they are there somewhere safe, waitning for their time to come reconquering the land...
     
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  8. vasco

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    I never ask him difficult questions.
     
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    Ну чо, курвы польские, нравятся вам украинские беженцы? Рады, что рабы к вами сами прибежали?
     
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    Some sold, some rusted, some busted.
     
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    He was asking about the Ukrainian, not the Russian ones :)

    Ukrainians are very discreet, and rarely publish images of their own losses.
    These must have been substantial (particularly during the first week of the war), but still not as dramatic as the ruSSian ones.

    Furthermore - Ukrainian armor is outclassed by the ruSSian one, at least on paper.
    The dominant MBT of the Ukrainian forces is the old T-64 (and the dominant MBT of ruSSian forces the T-72, which is the same generation as the Ukrainian T-64s).
    What Czechia offered the Ukrainians were their T-72 (modified with more modern FCSs and night vision sensors - still flawed with ammo storage layout - ever noticed that the vast majority of the destroyed ruSSian T-72s and T-90s are turetless?)

    I guess Poland could send its T-72s too.
    We still have plenty (plus a license to build more if we need), and we already have significant amounts of more modern gear (Polish-built PT-91 - a T-72 modification comparable to the ruSSian T-90, Leopards (the old A4s, but also the more modern A5s and PLs), and the first M1A2s are due to arrive in autumn anyway, to replace the T-72s we still have.
     
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    I wonder why did they run here, instead of getting to the "land of their liberators", the Nazi ruSSia?
    Any ideas?
    There are just two millions of them here.
    Nothing we can't cope with.
    Some went further west, some (85% of them men) went back home to fight for their homeland.

    My daughter has some new students in her class, you now hear Ukrainian more often on a bus, or in a shopping centre.
    Big deal.
    I live in the Eastern Poland. We would long since be fucked, weren't it for the Ukrainian workers coming here.
    Who would pick apples in our orchards?
    Who would work in our shopping centres?
    Who would work at our construction sites?
    But also:
    Who would run hundreds of smaller and larger businesses here?
    Who would write the software at our and Ukrainian software companies?
    Who would care for our patients?

    Eastern Poland would not develop, as it does, weren't this for the hard working, peaceful and readily integrating Ukrainians.
    Polish labour market would collapse without Ukrainians, it is already finding itself in a hard time, after hundreds of thousands of skilled workers returned home to fight for their land with the nazis.

    A ti sam kurva mamali, kurva Putina.
     
  13. hugo baskervill

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    Они мои коллеги, коллеги, друзья и, для некоторых из нас, семья.

    Поэтому я рад, что мы отправляем в Украину оружие, танки и технику. Наш арсенал заработал, оружейная промышленность ожила и, надеюсь, скоро поможет удобрять украинские поля телами русских солдат. ;)
     
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    Hugo, you 've already believed vasco's info? without fact-checking???
     
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    dolboyob :)
    по картинкам из украинских СМИ делает вывод об украинских же потерях :)

    лицензия??? :)
    и кому вы собрались платить по лицензии? :)

    дебил!
    ты вот почему-то различаешь Леопарды по версиям модификаций, а Т-72 для тебя все на одно лицо, чтоли? :)
     
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    There are images with the trenches dug by Russians at Chernobyl. A very fine digging work btw.
     
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    Учите, дураки, русский язык. Хорошенько учите.
     
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    Prague.... beautiful ancient Churches spiles, ancient bridges...
    After your words, when next time russian soldier will be ordered to come in Prague - he will fuck that "beautifulness" and keep their lives safe - there will be no "street wars" - just 1 Mt ontop and clean glassified surface...
     
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    you didnt saw, but other people did.

    https://lenta.ru/news/2021/10/14/farion/

    "Julia Timoshenko nuclear bomb"
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...lear-weapons-should-be-used-to-kill-russians/

    and there a lots of other banderlog politicians who thinks so.

    We had the ONLY SINGLE Zhirinovskii who talked very aggressively. Putin filtered all Z's rave, and took into account only those thoughts that had a sense.
    On Ukraine - 1/2 of Rada is pro-banderlog (aggressive) in 2021, and 1/3 was such in 2013. After 24.02.2022 - all opposition is prisoned and 100% of Rada is aggressive.
    if you'll give baboooins/banderlogs a nuke - they will easily use it onto Russia.
    After seeing hostile atitude of NATO (USA) to Russia in Dec.2021 (that acknowledges all our fears on NATO expansion) - we expect every cases as a real threat - including passing "dirty nukes" to banderlogs.

    You do not understand that?
    We will not translate you second time. We have to do all things to save our country from NATO - first necessity is to neutralize banderlogs, grown by NATO secret services.