When is chute shooting ok?

I just has a little run in with papito over at f32. He is a 109. I am a spit. I ping him and he begins leaking oil, so I thought he was going down. Looked back and there he was at d2 and closing. He pings me and pings me good. I should have finished him off in that first contact.

He eventually black oils. I let him have it, and down he finally goes in flames, then bails. From his chute, Papito opens fire on me. Well... needless to say, I returned fire on the bastard. I killed his chute in the skirmish, and made no apologies. It was intentional.

He calls me a chute shooter, and insists that a .45 mm hand gun could not have hurt me, so I shouldnt have fired on his chute. My policy is...if the nme still poses a threat ..... blow him outta the sky.

I know that in some lucky instances... pk is possible from the .45 handgun. I'm not going to take chances. Even if the nme is waving a white flag in his right had, should I ignore the .45 caliber in his left hand. That would be idiotic. Hostile intentions = Hostile response!


1. Was I correct in blasting away at a hostile nme that still poses a threat?

2. Can .45 mm handgun do injury to plane and or pilot?

 

If someone hanging on his chute shoots at my plane i don`t care.
He never will hit me. so:

No need to shoot at chutes. Never !!!

Cu Flubby

 

no, that gun can't harm you - afaik hits by this gun are not counted

i would personally never attack chute because i don't see any reason --
he can't harm me nor my fellow redies;
no kill for me for killing him on chute;
waste of ammo;
waste of my E;
lowering my SA level by concetrating on this chute;
it would nark my fellow goldie

 

I will shot chute only if he shot down other chute earlier.
Like Chuck Yeager some time ago..

 

what lepper?? say the story pls pls pls i dont know that story

 

I never shoot at pilots that hit the silk

 

That story about Chuck Yeager is from his own autobiography, titled (appropriatley enough) "Yeager"

 

How did he know it was the same pilot?

Most combatants in WW2 regarded shooting chutes as unwritten warcrime. From what i've read - the only ones doing these executions repeatedly were US bomber escorts. I've never read about shooting chutes in german-british or finnish-soviet airfights.

 

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I also think that chute killing is never ok. Even when chute is trying to shoot, it's rather a "last chance", and there's rather no chance to kill someone by the pistol, especialy to kill the other pilot.

Lucas

 

Silly to believe that only American pilots sometimes killed bailed pilots. These men onBOTH sides of conflict were in an extremely stressfull situation for extended periods of time. They were witness to many of thier friends being killed in combat. Do you really think only American men were capable of being pushed to thier 'breaking point' allowing them to kill in this fashion?

I have read accounts of pilots from as early as the Battle of Britain shooting pilots in bail. Imagine German pilots watching heavy bombers dropping on thier homeland,knowing the inevitable civilian deaths each raid would bring. Do you suppose this might push a man to do something he would never consider outside of these parameters? Consider the extreme passion with which the Germans and Russians fought for years. Do you really believe they were above commiting the same actions that I am sure some American pilots as well commited?

As for this 'game', I do not shoot chutes as a rule. But I have a few times in my long WB history. These were times when someone was able to anger me to that point. Shamefull of me to let a game piss me off that much. But I feel no shame for shooting imaginary bullets at an imaginary pilot in a combat simulation game.

 

hi con, whenever you had a bad day, shoot my chute...

for me the argument of "holy revenge in the name of morality" is the last which would ever come over my lips. in real life the same as in the game. i even remember the pretty common ch100-comment:"well reds/golds... since you kill chutes, i will do it from now on...". if chuckie y. has done so, he definitely has watched too many "tom mix"-movies before...

good statement regarding individual attitude (based on whatever): 'i don't feel well killing chutes, no thrill in the game, no fun...' that is valid!
but i prefer not to compare to historical events as i don't regard warbirds as a wargame.
many things can be done which would have been impossible in history: tactical, strategical and conventional. unlimited lives result of course in no respect for virtual life, so for me there is no "moral" reason not to shute choots, err shoote chuts... i don't kill chutes for some reasons till now (like no sportif motivation) beside the score-effect i also don't matter if i were killed in bail. indeed i never intentionally aimed at a chute and there were very few cases when someone did to me. if i loose a high streak (around 7 ) i call my neighbour names out of the window - because i am sorry for the points! regarding scores: bailing is no big thing (more or less luck how it ends) but ditching can be artistic - so only the blue and red part of the circle in scorepages is important to me.

in real life i probably would have liked to bail together with a shot enemy...
in the game i can sneak, change sides a 1000 times, fly low level raids (because 90% of fields are ghost-fields), climb to 10000m in a solo-sortie and visit the dinosaur. who never shot all 30mm in an empty buff, because after 10 minutes climb the con was on rtb? i did, but i didn't enjoy the "points". no "moral" reason, but then it comes to my mind that the buff most likely climbed for 40 minutes... (even worse with transports: such easy and welcome targets - sry, drivers, for shooting transport, i have high respect)
shooting chutes is not anymore "playing" for me, but some may like it "harder"... the little pistolet is a joke in that context

it's a pretty good game and i think, most members have respect for the worthy pilots. but it's up to everyone self, which gives a more interesting community than "rules of honour". i am sure, real war-history was only dirty and anything but "honour"...
honour is a private thing - i feel that any "damnation" in this game is wrong placed (of course emotions are not )

ps:
can't find the similar threat about 15 months ago

 

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I usually don't shot at chutes, althought I did it once, on purpouse. I was having a bad day (not in WB, IRL), I shot him in a knive fight, take his oil and fuel, maybe an aileron. Told him to RTB. I take a course to my base and acelerate. He turns to me and I hear some pings, lose an aileron, gets pissed off shot him and killed the chute after that.

Not something I'm proud off thought.

 

NEVER!


Ps.the behavior has gone to hell in FH nowdays,good days r in the past Just try to give example to newbies.I liked the athmosphere when guys respect eachother.

Salute gents

 

where is the "Never" option in the poll?

 

bis

 

repsect the game!

yes, respect is a good word!
for me respect is a passive behaviour: respect is to be earned, not something i must owe to anybody, like offering humble grandma my seat in the bus. i don't use busses very often, so i don't know what i would do. but elder people very often have my respect, it is not the fact of their age, but what the years made out of them. if i offer a seat to humble granny, then because i feel respect - not due to common morality.

therefore i don't believe in ch100:
"you ***, i will ***you, you killed my chute! i'll tell all my friends, which *** you are..." or anything similar in forum!
honestly, if i ever will intentionally kill a chute and then read this, i would feel like doing it some more times.

many periods in history have been, where the enemy has been killed up to the last even been highly respected (of course also of pure lust ) the more men's machines were nearly able to destroy populations or nations, the more men showed "mercy" or searched for "honour"
respect is a lot more and for that i agree to jacobe.
respect is also not an absolutum, respect has many sides.
so i hope i will earn some respect once, but nobody owes me respect! dear enemy, kill my chute, i will know your reason (same for friendlies).
but the next day i will hardly remember. getting a picture of your personality will take more time, since i don't read black-lists and since i believe my own code of "honourable playing":


btw:
i respect such a lot pilots of fh. i enjoy the game more as in my first tods. i am happy to see more new members than in other "old" games. and i hope that i will be able to respect myself as a contribution to the attractivity of the game (even if only as a chute being killed to light up some others day )

ps:
the best joke in "ali g - the movie" was the scene in parliament, when ali said:'r-e-p-s-e-c-t is what you need to show!' and one member asked:'repsect??'

pps:
hmm, ali g is not funny, when written down...

 

i remember that thread ledada from quite sometime ago. my opinion on killing chutes is never. that is, unless i see the con shooting at me from his chute. in that case it depends on the situation and how things are at that moment. if he is shooting at me from his chute. then, it tells me he still has fight left in him. so i hold the cards of life and death for him then. this doesn't mean i will kill him. but if i have plenty of ammo, and thier are no other risks/cons to worry about, i may end this shooting chutes virtual life. now i think i may have killed a chute intentionally once. because he still shot at me. but if he had floated down gracefully, i would have flew off into the wild blue wonder. also this pilot was one that i had caused to bail, and not someone else's kill ofcoarse.

 

Is there no international virtual war crimes tribunal?